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Title: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on March 01, 2012, 03:08:06 am
Hey All,

Just so I am open and clear, this is not an Ad, but I am directly related to this product.  This is more like a wish that we just want feedback.  If you don't remember me, I released the Android Timer Application a few months ago. 

http://www.zebrahuddle.com/index.php?topic=2210.0

Tonight, I am proud to announce the release of the next generation Scoreboard.  I have been spending the passed few months building it with my partner.  We took everything the Carolina Scoreboard had to offer, but added a few new features.  We know it will be extremely hard to talk you out of using some tried and true piece of software, but we aren't asking that at this moment.  What we are asking is that we get some good and honest feedback about this scoreboard we built.  Over the next few months, we will be spending a lot of time making sure this one is the best and when you choose to or your team decides to, you can make the switch knowing where to find the developer if something breaks. hah.

So if you could, just hear me out.  Install it, open it up and email us on any and all feedback you might have to offer.

info@rdnation.com

The download page has the features that we currently have in the board, so I don't want to bore you anymore, lets just cut to the chase.

http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard

We are in Public Beta until April 2012, so we suggest not using this at any bouts just yet.  We will push an update when we feel its ready for full time.

Thanks All!

BTW, You are the first ones to see this Scoreboard in the wild, so consider your selves privileged.

Just in case your wondering whats coming next.

http://blog.rdnation.com/

Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: mick hawkins on March 01, 2012, 03:41:30 am
Not only is your post an ad... but your scoreboard actually looks very much like the Carolina Roller Girls one

Your website (which only mentions CRG's as a comparison) gives me the impression you're taking someone else's hard work and claiming it as your own


My feedback would be:

Dont steal other's work
Come up with something that doesn't already exist, or is at least significantly different  in some way
Don't start a thread to advertise it
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Megapickle on March 01, 2012, 09:00:45 am
So we're crystal clear, this is a commercial venture. Per CheetahTech's Veggie Delight's personal blog (http://www.spoiledtechie.com/post/2011/12/01/Developer-Income-Report-3.aspx): "We personally think it has the ability to make big money."
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Riff Reff on March 01, 2012, 09:15:33 am
You definitely need to change the frontend, and if it's just for the sake that people don't think that the CRG board is in use.
(I mean, even the black grey gradient? seriously?)

and there is no UKRDA rule set btw....
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Megapickle on March 01, 2012, 10:20:31 am
(I mean, even the black grey gradient? seriously?)
Seriously shameless.

Open source =/= public domain.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on March 01, 2012, 03:35:22 pm
I want to make sure this makes sense.

I don't consider it an Ad because the scoreboard is free.  It will remain free for the lifetime of the application.  Never to be charged for.  We will keep investing our valuable time into it.

It does look like the Carolina Scoreboard.  But they do not currently hold copyright or trademark to their design.  We consider their scoreboard to be the best in the current "market".  So we wanted to both mirror them and improve upon it.  We think it lacks in some areas and we want to push the envelope like I said.  Whats so wrong about healthy competition?  Competition has shown to improve the entire environment of which that competition resides.

We decided that our scoreboard needs to be at least to par with what Carolina offers.  We are not trying to steal it.  Just to match it so we can offer a significant difference down the line.  And we will get there.  We have many more improvements being made in the coming weeks and months.  Stay Tuned.

It is a commercial venture, but the scoreboard is not.  We only wish to build the scoreboard like we built the Android Timer.  To make the over all Roller Derby experience better for the Roller Derby Family. 

As for the front end of the scoreboard, there are themes that will be installed later in this scoreboard.  The themes will allow users to pick any type of front end they want to that best suites them.

Sadly, we have some API calls to our server for "later" use.  We cannot make it public domain due to those API calls.  We don't wish for fake information to arise later down the line and this way we are striving to make sure it doesn't happen.

All I am asking, is just give us a couple more months.  You will be seeing a large improvement both in the scoreboard and a new way to manage Roller Derby in general.

We will be pushing the envelope HARD.

Please remember, I am only building these things because someone else chooses not to.

I want to help, not hurt the Roller Derby way of life.

Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Megapickle on March 01, 2012, 05:00:37 pm
I don't consider it an Ad because the scoreboard is free.
Does not compute. I'm bombarded by ads for "free" products dozens of times a day.

It does look like the Carolina Scoreboard.  But they do not currently hold copyright [...]
That's a laugher. Open the "COPYING" file of the CRG package, and tell me what the first word is.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on March 01, 2012, 06:54:38 pm
Mega, The interface does not hold copyright or trademark.  In the GNU copyright, the interface is defined by what an official standards body recognizes as the correct standard.  Or derives from what is widely used in used among developers of that particular language.

We have not made an exact copy nor have modified the original source requiring us to obtain copyright permission.

Because of this, they do not hold copyright over our product.

I am sorry to offend you.  All I asked was that you look over and rate our product and give us feedback.  We would have hoped that you and everyone else in the roller derby family would accept this with open arms.  For we have a long way to go and we are only getting started.

If you would like to talk about how we can clear this up, I am more than happy to.  So please don't hesitate.

Thank you.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Half-Nelson on March 01, 2012, 07:12:31 pm
It does look like the Carolina Scoreboard.  But they do not currently hold copyright or trademark to their design...

You need to brush up on US Copyright Law. They most certainly do own the copyright to their own work, both for the design — the look and feel of the software — and the source code itself. Trademarks are for things like logos, which do not apply here.

What you have done is violated their copyright by copying their user interface without asking for permission (unless you did ask their permission, but your statements so far suggest otherwise).

The GNU GPL you refer to is a software license, not a copyright. It is a tool employed by copyright holders to grant others permission to use their work under certain very well-defined conditions. Even if the GPL granted you permission to freely copy their user interface design (it doesn’t), your product would be considered a derivative work, also subject to the GPL, which requires you to make the source code available. By refusing to share the source code, not only would you be violating the rights of the copyright holders, you are violating the terms of the GNU GPL software license.

You are correct in saying there is room in the market for a new scoreboard software package, and I applaud you for your effort. However, you are going about this wrong. It is not okay — in fact it is illegal — to copy someone else's work.

The best course of action would be for you to temporarily remove your software from distribution, issue an apology to the CRG Scoreboard developers, and re-release your software with a user interface of your own devising.

I think you will find that this community can be incredibly open and receptive to new ideas... as long as they are your new ideas. If you don’t handle this situation well, I fear your software — however capable it may be — will be largely ignored.

I am hopeful that you can do the right thing here so we can have another viable option for a derby scoreboard for our bouts.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Eject You Later on March 01, 2012, 07:27:21 pm
The best course of action would be for you to temporarily remove your software from distribution, issue an apology to the CRG Scoreboard developers, and re-release your software with a user interface of your own devising.

Or contact Mr. T and join him in a collaborative effort.  He might like additional programmers submitting code and tweaks.

Of course it won't be "yours" but then, if you copy his efforts, it isn't really yours in the first place.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Major Wood on March 01, 2012, 07:30:32 pm
My strong suggestion is to come up with something drastically different. If that is what you are intending to do, start from the ground up.

If you are really looking to provide a similar look and feel to the CRG scoreboard, with a bunch of new features, why not submit code to their open source project? That scoreboard is definitely still under development and is widely accepted as the standard.

I'm not saying that there isn't room for another scoreboard on the market, but it needs to be very unique. Saying this as someone who had a scoreboard on the market in the past, there is no way I'd try to compete at this point.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on March 01, 2012, 08:04:36 pm
Im glad there is a real discussion now instead of just accusations.  Thanks for rerouting the conversation.

The scoreboard we are currently working on almost generic to other scoreboards out there.  If we could compare it to others they pretty much have the same type of interface and design.

http://www.pcscoreboards.com/rollerderbyscoreboardpro/

http://poang.gg/

http://www.rollerderbyproductions.com/features.php

Its hard to say what Carolina has created is not the standard, but other scoreboards use that same standard.  Carolina just also drastically changed their UI in the past 2 months as well with a version .2 release.  So while the argument could be made that we copied another scoreboard, its also hard to build something that is drastically different because it is the standard.

I am not personally trying to do anything illegal and if thats the case, then I will contact Mr T. and have a chat with him. 

We don't wish to submit code to their base at this time.  Stated earlier, we are doing things with our servers API, that we don't wish to release at this time in order to make sure no fake data is implemented.

The user interface features Carolina and ours share is hard to describe, but I do understand where everyone is coming from.  I will consider changing the User interface around to make adjustments that we are no as close to the Carolina board as some people might see us.  But I ask you to understand, it will be hard to drastically change it due to the standard being exactly what the Carolina and other boards offer.

I hope you guys and gals will still understand and at least test our board out over the next couple weeks.  You will be seeing lots of improvements over that period of time.

Thanks all for your advice and your consideration.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Megapickle on March 01, 2012, 08:43:37 pm
The scoreboard we are currently working on almost generic to other scoreboards out there.  If we could compare it to others they pretty much have the same type of interface and design.

Really? You're claiming that all five of these have "pretty much the same design"?

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7055/6798511502_228cb0c076_b.jpg)
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on March 01, 2012, 09:10:10 pm
Look Mega,

Yes they are.  Scores are in the same place, Logos mostly in the same place along with the team names.  In reality, the only real thing that Carolina and us share is the theme.  The difference with ours and Carolina is you can choose a different theme for our board.

Once we get themes built out in the scoreboard, I wouldn't be surprised if you see other designs from us that mimic other scoreboards in the wild.  Remember, we want to take the best and make it better.

Just download it and give it a try.  Put your money where your mouth is and give us other types of feedback instead of talking about the same thing.  We have added the themes item to our list of enhancements for the month just so we can have this argument settled.

As you can see here: http://bugs.rdnation.com/

If there is more feedback, let me know so we can address it.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: mick hawkins on March 01, 2012, 09:13:17 pm
Im glad there is a real discussion now instead of just accusations.  

Accusations?
The initial post said...
We took everything the Carolina Scoreboard had to offer, but added a few new features.
you "took everything the Carolina Scoreboard had".... which apart from being past tense when it should be present tense, admits that you took everything the Carolina Scoreboard has.

Seems like a pretty clear admission that you're attempting to take someone else's work and claim it as your own.

Makes me wonder how much of your product uses CRG code.

I'm going to stick with the CRG scoreboard
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on March 01, 2012, 09:28:52 pm
Ugh,

Our scoreboard isn't written in Java at all.  We don't even touch a single part of their code.  Most of its written in HTML and Javascript.  While we are written in WPF and C#.

When I say we took everything the Carolina board had to offer, it was a metaphor.  We didn't actually use or take their code.

You guys are a rough crowd.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: mick hawkins on March 01, 2012, 09:45:59 pm
Ugh,

Our scoreboard isn't written in Java at all.  We don't even touch a single part of their code.  Most of its written in HTML and Javascript.  While we are written in WPF and C#.

When I say we took everything the Carolina board had to offer, it was a metaphor.  We didn't actually use or take their code.

You guys are a rough crowd.

I see... so you just took their design?
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on March 01, 2012, 09:54:05 pm
We took their "Game Clock" what everyone sees on the projector/screen and added it as our first theme in the scoreboard.  There will be multiple "themes" to display to fans in the next month.  We just thought Carolina was the best "theme" in the bunch. 

So yes, we did steal their forward facing "Game Clock" for the time being.  We planned to roll out additional "Game Clocks" later this month.

But it looks like we need to speed that part up so I can make sure the feedback I am getting is received well.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Half-Nelson on March 01, 2012, 09:58:54 pm
You guys are a rough crowd.

Yes they are.  Scores are in the same place, Logos mostly in the same place along with the team names.  In reality, the only real thing that Carolina and us share is the theme.  The difference with ours and Carolina is you can choose a different theme for our board.

This is starting to feel like troll feeding, but I'm going to take one last shot at this...

You are missing the point. By your own admission above, you have copied the design, the look-and-feel, the "theme", whatever you want to label it of the Carolina Scoreboard.

Clearly, you don't think this is wrong. As I stated before, you seem not to have a solid understanding of US Copyright Law; I can say in no uncertain terms that this is wrong and is an infringement of their copyright. And I say this speaking from over ten years of enterprise-level professional software development experience.

Look at those screen shots Megapickle was kind enough to copy and paste here again. You are right in saying that all of these scoreboards show team logos, score, clocks, timeouts, etc.

But there are only two of them that have a black-to-gray gradient background. Only two of them that show the numbers in rounded rectangles with a white-to-gray gradient background. Only two of them that display the league logos above the score in a black-to-white-to-black gradient background. Only two of them that show the team timeouts between the scores. Only two of them that show the period and jam clocks side-by-side. Only two of them that show the period and jam clocks at the bottom of the screen.

And one of them came before the other one.

Nobody is arguing that it is wrong that your software and the other software share similar features. One would hope that they do, but your software improves on those features. This is healthy competition in an open market.

What everyone here has an issue with is your blatent and deliberate copy of the look-and-feel, the visual design, the "theme" of the Carolina Scoreboard. Instead of coming up with your own unique design and layout for these elements on your screen — like all three other software packages you yourself linked too — you stole the look and feel from the CRG package, right down to the color scheme.

You are shooting yourself in the foot here. By arguing that you didn't steal the results of their design work (and over three years of design iterations) or, worse, trying to justify it, you are alienating your potential customer base. You have already definitively lost at least one customer here.

If you want to save face, and have a fighting chance at any sort of widespread adoption of your software, you would do well to remove that "theme" from your software immediately and replace it with your own design work. If, in the future, the CRG developers decide they like your software and want to contribute a "CRG theme" to it, that is their exclusive right.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on March 01, 2012, 10:04:05 pm
Thank You Half-Nelson.

Ill get back to you on this.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Major Wood on March 02, 2012, 04:13:22 am
To give you a little more insight...

Apple recently got the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 removed from the market in Germany because the design was too similar. Anyone who watches the tablet market would know that there isn't a whole lot you can do to make a tablet that people would want that would make it look drastically different. Yes, that is in Germany, but American laws aren't terribly different when it comes to Likelihood of Confusion.

(http://www.pdfdevices.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/iPad-2-vs-Galaxy-Tab-10.1.jpg)

Those are both tablets. Do they look identical? No. Do they look similar? Yes.
Now look at your scoreboard and the CRG scoreboard with that thought in mind. That is the crux of this discussion.
I'm no lawyer, but I would say that Mr. T is in an actionable position at this point.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: mick hawkins on March 02, 2012, 06:50:18 am
Indeed. I think the legal term (here in Australia at least), "deceptively similar" might apply also.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Riff Reff on March 02, 2012, 01:29:49 pm
To maybe turn this into constructive feedback:

I would consider a scoreboard that looks different from the CRG scoreboard. In our new venue we are using a large LED wall, that has a resolution of 500something to 300something pixels. A reason why I don't use league logos.
CRG has no 16:9 output (yet).
I would prefer if the numbers of the score would not be in those grey boxes but simply white on black. I would even more prefer if I could change the frontend to my needs easily.
As long as your scoreboard looks like the CRG I have no need to switch.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Cliquework on March 02, 2012, 01:51:58 pm
To maybe turn thins into constructive feedback:

Thank you.

+1
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Trax on March 02, 2012, 02:17:33 pm
Hello all, my name is Trax (from Sweden).

My partner is Veggie Delight and together we run RDNation.com.

First off, I would like to offer you all a sincere apology, both for the layout theft and also for my partner's aggravating responses. I just got informed of this forum posting process and I would like to try and explain our predicament.

Our goal is to enhance the world of Roller Derby and also try to reach the big mass of people that are still unaware of the beauty of Roller Derby. Our first step towards these goals was to produce a Scoreboard.
The idea is to hook the Scoreboard to our website so that you and your team can display not only the result from the bouts, but also stats from the bout live so that everyone, even those that are not attending, can see it. We hope that the Scoreboard will lead the way for our future applications.

Regarding the theft of the Carolina's Roller Derby Scoreboard.
I want to make it clear that we had and still have no intention of stealing their work, regardless of what previous posts might indicate.
To accommodate this, I did what Half-Nelson suggested and removed the download link to the current version and it will remain down until we have finished a layout of our own. If, in the future, as Half-Nelson said, we get permission to use the Carolina Scoreboard's interface, then and only then will it be incorporated into Thor's Hammer Scoreboard. We hope that this won't have caused too big of a rift between us, and we will be very careful to make sure that everything we do in the future will be as accurate and correct as humanly possible.

After reading some statements about economic ventures above, I would just like to make this perfectly clear. Yes we have some economic interests and we will strive to bring in a few dollars to cover our costs, but not from the Scoreboard. The Scoreboard, Thor's Hammer, will always be a free application to use with no restrictions.

Course of actions from our side will be/have been executed:
- Removal of the download of Thor's Hammer.
- Apology to the Zebra Huddle's community for inappropriate and aggravating responses from my partner Veggie Delight.
- Working on a brand new interface for the game clock so that, when we re-release it, it will be ours.
- Remove the code for the layout of the game clock in our code bank.

Once again, I'm sorry for the trouble that this has caused so far and I hope you will find it in your hearts to forgive our mistake and strive with us to make Roller Derby an even more fantastic experience in the future.

Your friend or foe on the tracks,
Trax.

P.S.
I also added this as a bug in our publicly viewable issue tracker, bugs.rdnation.com (http://bugs.rdnation.com)
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Trax on March 02, 2012, 02:22:11 pm
To maybe turn thins into constructive feedback:

I would consider a scoreboard that looks different from the CRG scoreboard. In our new venue we are using a large LED wall, that has a resolution of 500something to 300something pixels. A reason why I don't use league logos.
CRG has no 16:9 output (yet).
I would prefer if the numbers of the score would not be in those grey boxes but simply white on black. I would even more prefer if I could change the frontend to my needs easily.
As long as your scoreboard looks like the CRG I have no need to switch.

Thanks Riff Reff for your feedback. I have added it as a requested feature in our Issue Tracker, bugs.rdnation.com (http://bugs.rdnation.com)
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Trax on March 12, 2012, 09:51:28 pm
Hello all!

We have now relaunched the Scoreboard with our own Game Clock and some other small fixes. The Carolina layout is still in since we got a written permission to use it. The beta-testing will continue until beginning of April where we hope to have our website up and running to display stats from the games, everything free.

Test it and please let us know what you think, feedback@rdnation.com

Download it from: http://rdnation.com/scoreboard

Current bugs/future improvements/enhancements and such can be found here: http://bugs.rdnation.com

Your friend or foe on the tracks,
Trax
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on April 09, 2012, 05:41:57 am
Hello All,

I just wanted to keep everyone updated on the new release of Thor's Hammer.  The scoreboard built by RDNation.com.

We just released version 1.5.  We added skater pictures and a few more bug fixes.

You can see the full list here: http://blog.rdnation.com/post/20762418989/thors-hammer-v1-5-0

You can download the new version here: http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard

If you have any comments/questions or concerns, please feel free to ask or email us at info@rdnation.com.

Thanks for all your support. We have been getting amazing feedback from the entire derby family.

Veggie D.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on May 11, 2012, 01:34:57 am
Hey All,

Its been just about a month since our last release of our roller derby scoreboard.  We just released version 1.5.3.  This version includes more bugs fixes, but a major new feature.

We received a need from one of the teams currently using it.  They wanted a better way to do skater introductions.  So we built out dynamic templates for introduction slides.  The slides are templates which you can customize colors of each.  There are currently two templates offered.  We plan on more in the future and would gladly build out anything suggested.

This feature by it self is supposed to save your scoreboard operator a few hours before the bout trying to set up and create slides.  Hopefully this will both save time and frustration along with making your fans more Awed by roller derby.

The full blog post about it is here: http://blog.rdnation.com/post/22807391348/thors-hammer-v1-5-3-roller-derby-scoreboard

You can download the scoreboard from here: http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard

Again, if you have any comments, questions or concerns, please email us at info@rdnation.com and we will answer you back promptly.

Thanks for all the feedback so far.

Veggie D.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on May 17, 2012, 07:40:11 am
Hey All,

With keeping with the tradition, we wanted to update this thread on the next release of the Scoreboard.  Its only been 7 days and we have received mountains of feedback.  We took the biggest few items on the list and went ahead to build them out.

So here they are with Version 1.5.4.


The full blog post with pictures can be found here: http://blog.rdnation.com/post/23217173734/thors-hammer-v1-5-4-roller-derby-scoreboard

You can download the scoreboard for your self here: http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard

As always, provide us with any comments, questions or concerns at our email: info@rdnation.com.

Keep up with the feedback, we really appreciate it.

Veggie D.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on June 05, 2012, 06:44:43 am
With the latest release behind us, we wanted to let everyone know of the next release that just arrived.

Our Roller Derby Scoreboard is now in release 1.6.  And that means that we have added a few more features along with more bug fixes. The main features we added are:


The full blog post can be found here: http://blog.rdnation.com/post/24456655301/thors-hammer-v1-6-roller-derby-scoreboard

You can download the scoreboard from here along with seeing the vast amount of features it has: http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard

As always, you can even email us at: info@rdnation.com with any questions/comments or concerns.

Thanks for the continuing feedback.

Veggie D.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on July 24, 2012, 02:17:42 am
Hey All,

We will be releasing another version of our roller derby scoreboard on August 4th.  This is by far the most ground breaking and forward thinking release anyone in Roller Derby has ever put out.  A major goal of ours is to show the world what Roller Derby is about, inline with that goal is to put ALL Roller Derby Games online.  This includes but is not limited to the stats, pictures, player profiles, leagues, and even the conversation.  We started building the Scoreboard with this in mind.  With this release, the scoreboard is now operational to send LIVE games to our servers as well as all the line ups, the player profiles, pictures and even team logos. From there your fans can go to RDNation.com, and view all the live stats, pictures, team and player bios for each game that uses our scoreboard.  This functionality is in REAL TIME.  This means  when the game is on Jam 10, and 5 points are scored in the first 30 seconds, the website can and will show that information. It shows what jammer scored the 5 points as well as who the blockers were and the other teams line up.  We take all of this into account and display it out for fans.

This will be a soft release only which is sort of like a Beta test for video games, everything works, but we just aren’t telling the world about it just yet.  We blogged the step by step process (http://blog.rdnation.com/post/27872826024/publish-your-roller-derby-game-online-step-by-step) to set this up so it is very simple and only requires a couple steps to publish a Roller Derby Game Online for the world. Please keep in mind, that this is still a soft release, which means we are still building out some functionality of the website, but a lot of the functionality will still be there.

On August 3rd, 2012 we will be using this brand new functionality for the first time for the South Jersey Banked Track Bout.  The game is at 8PM EST, so you will start to see the game on RDNation.com at that time.  On August 4th we will be delivering the functionality to the world.

As always, if you have any questions, feel free to email us at info@rdnation.com.

The full blog post about this release can be found here: http://blog.rdnation.com/post/27873068163/new-scoreboard-release-on-august-4th-2012

Thanks All.

Veggie Delight
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: SmackTavish on July 24, 2012, 04:45:01 pm
[rule]9.1.5.4 - Scoreboard Operator: A game will have one scoreboard operator. The scoreboard operator posts the score from the scorekeeper and the penalties from the penalty tracker.[/rule]

I'm just looking for a scoreboard that's actually WFTDA-compliant, ya'll.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on July 24, 2012, 08:40:46 pm
Your welcome to give ours a try.  I can promise you won't be too disappointed.

Veggie D.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Major Wood on July 24, 2012, 10:11:23 pm
[rule]9.1.5.4 - Scoreboard Operator: A game will have one scoreboard operator. The scoreboard operator posts the score from the scorekeeper and the penalties from the penalty tracker.[/rule]

I'm just looking for a scoreboard that's actually WFTDA-compliant, ya'll.

From everything I've seen, it doesn't exist, without using multiple projectors. The only thing I've seen that has a full penalty display is Rinxter and it is very difficult to read.

In short, don't worry about the penalty part of 9.1.5.4
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: SmackTavish on July 27, 2012, 04:52:42 pm
Your welcome to give ours a try.  I can promise you won't be too disappointed.

Veggie D.

It doesn't list the penalties, which is actually WFTDA rule. None of them do, as Major Wood just posted. If you want to make an awesome roller derby scoreboard that everyone wants to use, make it WFTDA-compliant, since nobody else's is.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Major Wood on July 27, 2012, 06:23:38 pm
Smack, it's not really possible. Screen real estate is at a premium and it is not easy to fit everything on the screen and still have it easy to read. Having penalties on there would be at the detriment of what you actually need a scoreboard for, time and score.

In addition to that, there are other significant hurdles to getting penalties on the scoreboard. The penalties have to be transmitted to the scoreboard in order to be displayed. This creates a problem for a league acquiring the appropriate hardware ($$$) to make it possible. It also creates an issue with having IT people who can set it up. Lastly, you need to train people for the system and (hopefully) have a backup system in place.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Black Adder on July 28, 2012, 03:37:18 am
can we get that rule changed?
Looking forward to the new rule set !
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on August 11, 2012, 04:29:35 am
We once again just updated our Roller Derby Scoreboard.

The feature we released this time was a small want from a team in another country.  They asked for video overlays so they can show the score during a game on video.  Make sense?  Well we went ahead and helped them with this feature.  We hope everyone here likes it to.  We have more updates to the feature coming, but as of now we think its good enough to release.

The blog post about it can be found here: http://blog.rdnation.com/post/29169849374/showing-video-with-our-roller-derby-scoreboard

As always, feel free to contact us at info@rdnation.com. 

I hope you enjoy this new feature!

Veggie D.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on August 29, 2012, 07:14:59 pm
Another Update!

While Zebra Huddle was down, we went ahead and made another update!  Thanks Major Wood for both bringing it back up and providing an excellent service.

We pushed another update to our Scoreboard and this time it has to do with Stats management.

We wanted a way to collect all the stats of the particular game.  So we created a small mini server that helps push out the video overlay feature we already have. http://blog.rdnation.com/post/29169849374/showing-video-with-our-roller-derby-scoreboard

This time, we built onto the mini server a way to collect stats.  The stats include all penalties, assists, blocks, line ups and all points scored by a particular player.  We have given access to 5 NSOs to collect stats for the entire game.  Built in the web browser, it won't matter which type of device your NSO has, Laptop, iPhone, Android or a windows phone.  As long as it has a web browser, you can use it.  We went ahead and blogged about it with screenshots here: http://blog.rdnation.com/post/29797206608/roller-derby-scoreboard-release-1-7-3-stats-management

Once the stats are collected with the scoreboard, we will then automatically upload those stats for later use.  Your team can export them, view them, attach each block, assist and penalty to the online profiles at RDNation.com.  If your not aware, our scoreboard shows all games published online for the world to see.  That means, fans can go to RDNation.com and view the game, its stats as it happens live online.  For a example of this, here is a game from this past month. http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-game/152fa630ecd14a61926b31b7da62e8ef/Hot-August-Night/Vinyard-Vixens/Beltway-Betties

Our scoreboard was used, and the entire game was online so fans can watch it from where ever they are located. To set it up, you can read this blog post. http://blog.rdnation.com/post/27872826024/publish-your-roller-derby-game-online-step-by-step

If you haven't used our scoreboard, I would suggest you try it out.  We offer all of this for FREE.  Live stats, player and league profiles, team pictures, skater pictures and even a live conversation thread so your fans can talk about the game.

You can download the scoreboard here: http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard

If you would like to see everything our scoreboard can do, just go to the download page and scroll down.  There is a large feature list there.

As always, feel free to contact us at anytime at info@rdnation.com, with feedback, questions or concerns.

Veggie Delight.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Lalato on August 30, 2012, 04:32:00 am
Nice... glad to see your progress.  Still waiting on the Mac/Linux version, but what you have so far sounds very promising.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on August 30, 2012, 03:47:53 pm
Thank you.  We are working very hard on it.

The Mac/Linux version won't be out for another year or so as we have more pertinent items on our todo list first.

I would suggest finding a windows box and giving it a try at least.  Macs also have the ability to run Windows since 2006.  http://store.apple.com/us/browse/guide/windows

Maybe that will convince you or what else would you like to see?
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on October 03, 2012, 09:07:25 pm
Hey All,

The next release of our scoreboard is out.  We made a lot of updates and bug fixes.  This time though, it was mainly to our saving/loading and our online game portal.

Saving and Loading has both been upgraded.  You can now save all the games from the scoreboard, and actually transfer the save game file and put it on a new computer.  From there, it will load up everything just how it was on the last computer.  All the stats, pictures and teams are all now saved in the save game file.

We updated our scoreboard for crashing as well.  In the event of a crash of any kind, the scoreboard will see the crash and ask if you want the old game from before the crash.

We finally updated our Online Game portal.  Games that are published online, or loaded online can now be moved around, adding ownership and adding players to each game.

You can publish the game online during the bout to show live stats, pictures etc or save the game once its completed and upload it to the games portal of RDNation.com.  Once the game has been loaded online, your league can match the skaters online to the game it self.  Therefore giving each skater stats on their profile page. As you can see here: http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-skater/Tastee-Freeze/35411d2c0e3b4a7e884bea39a2c070c3

Each one of your skaters will now have stats on their profile.

You also can now add each game to a created tournament!  So that tournaments can now be shown online for all to see.  As shown here for one of the tournaments already online. http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-tournament/647b1d0a606e41d7a7340ff897248c4d/Colossal-Coastal-Roller-Expo

I hope you enjoy the new features with putting your Roller Derby Games LIVE online for the world to see!!

As always, feel free to contact me at info@rdnation.com if you need anything.

Some Stats:
Downloaded: 2,342 times
Used By: 304 Leagues World Wide

I hope with some of these simple stats, you might be interested in showing it to your league as well.  We are truly making headway and want all the leagues to be apart of what we are trying to create...

Veggie D.
Bringing Roller Derby To The Masses
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on January 24, 2013, 03:49:06 am
Today we are releasing more features on our Roller Derby Scoreboard.

This is only a minor update, but includes two BIG features that will hopefully change the way some of you use the scoreboard. 


Some Stats:
Downloaded: 3,642 times
Used By: 402 Leagues World Wide

The full blog post can be found here with screenshots: http://blog.rdnation.com/post/41325931478/thors-hammer-v1-9-roller-derby-scoreboard

You can download the scoreboard from here along with seeing the vast amount of features it has: http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard

As always, you can even email us at: info@rdnation.com with any questions/comments or concerns.

Thanks for the continuing feedback.

Veggie D.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: SilkenTofu on January 24, 2013, 12:50:26 pm
We now allow you to control all the basic functionality of the scoreboard through a mobile device.  So lets say your head Ref or Head NSO wanted to control the functionality of the game with their phone or tablet, they now have that ability with our scoreboard.  You can now Start/Stop Jams, Start a Official/Team time out and Add/Subtract Team Points.  All this can now be done with a mobile device and you no longer need a scoreboard operator for the basic functions of the scoreboard.

Please note that the WFTDA rules still include 9.1.5.4, stating that a scoreboard operator is a required position for a bout to be considered regulation or sanctioned.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on January 24, 2013, 07:01:18 pm
Agreed.  For those leagues that are WFTDA, wouldn't use this feature, but for those leagues that only skate The WFTDA rule set, but don't feel a need for regulation can use this feature.

Thanks SilkenTofu.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: DocSkinner on February 01, 2013, 07:00:46 pm
The scoreboard now collects Referee and NSO rosters.  Which means, you can fill out rosters of the Referee and NSO crew inside the scoreboard.  Once filled out, the rosters can be saved and published to RDNation servers when you have the game online at RDNation.com.  So for each Referee or NSO that has participated in the game, their online RDNation "Profile" will reflect the game they attended along with their position they filled.  This feature is a HUGE step forward for both RDNation and the entire Referee/NSO community.  Referees and NSOs will get recognized just like the skaters for each game they participate in.

I was playing around with this feature and noticed that there is only space for 10 NSOs. Additionally, the only named positions for the NSOs are:

Head NSO
Penalty Box Team 1
Penalty Box Team 2
Penalty Wrangler
NSO

The position thing isn't too big of a deal, because everyone can just be an "NSO", but I am curious as to why the other positions were not included (your blog references the ability for officials to see online "what vital positions they filled").

Of bigger concern is the limit of ten NSOs. Sanctioned games are only required to have seven NSOs, but most full crews have been 14. With the new ruleset, we will probably be going with 12. However, your software adds the possibility of additional NSOs just for entering realtime stats.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on February 02, 2013, 04:20:40 pm
We will add the ability to add 14 NSOs.  We have designed it so that it now works with the new  Rule Set, but we haven't really been able to understand clearly how many NSOs will be needed for that rule set.

While we are at it, would you like to see more "Position Types" added?  If so, what positions would they be?

Veggie D.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Eject You Later on February 02, 2013, 04:31:00 pm
While we are at it, would you like to see more "Position Types" added?  If so, what positions would they be?

Do they have to be hardcoded?  Could you not add the functionality of "adding a position" so that if I want to have a "Track Tape Fixing Specialist," a "Bench Coach Liaison," and an "Announcer Ref" then I can simply add the NSO and label the position?

* Note that with the exception of the announcer ref, which I greatly enjoy having, the other two are figments of my imagination.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Darkjester on February 02, 2013, 04:32:16 pm
Figments, but possibly quite necessary!
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: The Gorram Reaver on February 02, 2013, 07:04:40 pm
While we are at it, would you like to see more "Position Types" added?  If so, what positions would they be?

Well, any position mandated by Rule 9.1.5 would be a real good start, as you can be assured those are the minimum staffing that will be used in any game until there is a new rule set published that changes those requirements.  (The list you provided only accounts for two of the required seven officials, and includes some non-required positions.)
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: DocSkinner on February 03, 2013, 02:12:25 am
I love the idea of customizable fields as Eject said. We use a "Score wrangler", which is not a position I have ever seen elsewhere, so adding our own positions would be great.  If they are hardcoded only, I would suggest these position types:

Jam Timer
Penalty Wrangler
Penalty Tracker
Whiteboard
Penalty Box Manager
Penalty Box Timer
Lineup Tracker
Scorekeeper
Scoreboard Operator
Head NSO
NSO (general/undefined)
Volunteer

And 14 may not be enough. There may be NSOs dedicated to entering realtime stats PLUS those who are doing paper copies for backup. At Rinxter-supported bouts I've worked, there were 14 standard NSOs plus about 5 more doing realtime stats.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on February 04, 2013, 03:59:41 am
Im gonna try and answer all your concerns in one post.

Thank you for the complete list of officials and nice to haves.  We will include that in the next update.  Hopefully in the next couple days.

We will create the ability to dynamically add all the NSOs/Referees you want.  I don't see a problem with that, so at sanctioned bouts, you will could add an unlimited amount of NSOs/Refs.

As for hard coding position names, we will have to stay with that.  If your interested in adding different positions not within the set of positions, feel free to ask us, and we will add them ourselves.  Our reason behind this is, we don't want the archived records at RDNation to become unweilding.  We have a lot of teams using our scoreboard.  Imagine if there is a spelling mistake or someone decides to put in "mascot"...  We need to assign positions, so if the mascot is something you are interested in, just ask us and we will add it.

Thanks for the 9.1 Rule Set.  Another small thing we are always working on is allowing all the rule sets to be used with our scoreboard.  This means that we have to track every rule set, not just WFTDA.

Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on March 25, 2013, 04:46:42 am
We just made a major release of Thor’s Hammer, RDNations Roller Derby Scoreboard today. 

This was big push to fix some major bugs, along with some back end management of jam data and some large feature enhancements.  Below are the list of major enhancements made to the scoreboard.

Save and Load Teams - Now within the Team Manager window, you can save and load past teams.  Therefore making it faster and easier to create new games.  It will save both pictures and information about each player.  So the Save and Load can be moved between computers. The save and load feature is located within the team manager.

Referee & NSO Manager Upgrades - From the last upgrade, we gave leagues the ability to add Referees and NSOs to their line ups. We made a minor upgrade which allows leagues to add an infinite amount of Referees and NSOs.  It is no longer restricted by only 10 Refs and NSOs.  Many more positions have also been added to the NSO management.

More Server Controls - We have been refining our server for total control of the game from a mobile device.  You can now control the basic functions of a game all from one mobile device.
First open the server window.

Video Overlay Upgrades - We have made some BIG improvements to the video overlay screen.  It now has its own tab.  You can make changes based on colors, logos, team names.  We now give you the ability to almost fully control the video overlay for your games.  We are still working on this feature and will have a much more advanced screen in the coming weeks, but this should get each league up and running quickly.
Based on the features changed within the overlay screen, you can pretty much manipulate almost any part of the overlay.  It will take some small amount of getting used to, but its highly capable of manipulating almost any feature of the overlay.

Scoreboard Themes - The last thing we added with this scoreboard was a theme.  We wanted you to have the ability to add multiple themes, so we gave you the idea with this theme, that it can be done.  All we ask is that you email us to get the conversation started.  You can then have a theme just for your league.

Some Stats:
Downloaded: 4,142 times
Used By: 472 Leagues World Wide

The full blog post can be found here with screenshots: http://blog.rdnation.com/post/46224976220/new-major-release-of-thors-hammer-roller-derby

You can download the scoreboard from here along with seeing the vast amount of features it has: http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard

As always, you can even email us at: info@rdnation.com with any questions/comments or concerns.

Thanks for the continuing feedback.

Veggie D.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on April 25, 2013, 10:33:57 pm
One of the leagues using Thor's Hammer had a tournament this weekend called the Derby Ink Invitational.  We asked them to write something up for us so we can publicize how well of a job it did from their perspective.  I thought I would share it here to show you how nice of a Scoreboard Thors Hammer is.
RDNation provides a Roller Derby scoreboard called Thors Hammer. 

To download Thors Hammer, http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard

This weekend, Thor's Hammer (TH) was used at a multi-game tournament called Derby Ink Invitational.

There were a total of 16 games played at this tournament.  You can view them here: http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-tournament/4129d7a99e3b4b53b02ae72e8b690553/Derby-Ink-Invitational

This post is to show everyone how powerful Thor's Hammer is as a Roller Derby Scoreboard.

Before the tournament it self, we logged into RDNation and created a brand new tournament under the games menu.  Therefore creating the Derby Ink Invitational tournament.  We assigned it a password, a paywall for the live video streaming and even a Shop to sell merchandise through while viewers watch the tournament.

We then opened up Thor's Hammer after downloading it from the link above.  We created a new game, then opened up the team manager.  For each team that was playing, 12 to be precise.  We filled out each line up under the team manager, added pictures and then saved those teams out using the "Save Team" feature.  Team Bionic, Made All-Stars, Penn Jersey, Rogue etc.

From there, the scoreboard was ready to go to start using at the actual tournament it self.

So on the day of the tournament, we opened a new scoreboard for each game.  We started a brand new game, went into the Team Manager and loaded each team from the "Load Team" feature and it loaded flawlessly with the pictures attached.  I want you to keep in mind that the computer we  saved the team files to and loaded from was entirely different.  Transferring the saved files via email.

After we created a new game, we filled out the game name, location etc.  From there we used the "Game Management" link that appears at the top of the scoreboard when its connected to the internet.

After following that link, publishing the game, attaching it to the Derby Ink tournament we create a few days before hand and attaching the "Shop" and "paywall for live streaming" to this game, we were ready to go.  We hit the Publish button and it started broadcasting on RDNation.com for all to see!

Each time a Jam was created, points were added, time outs were taken, line ups, penalties and stats were tracked and TH very nicely updated ALL those stats online flawlessly and may I say, quite LIVE.

Once the game was completed, we clicked the "Game Over" button in which that particular game was then saved out to our special Derby Ink folder we kept on the desktop.  It then asked us to Upload that game to RDNation directing us to the exact website link we should upload it to.  Once uploaded, we were able to view ALL the stats, see profiles and attach each skater to their perspective profile online.  It even uploaded their Profile Pictures to the LIVE game. 

Once we viewed the game online, TH is also able to export Stats Sheets in the standard format for the tournament.  We were happy to use those and print them out so that skaters could personally see what they did during each game. 

To view a couple games:

http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-game/6b453269d4be4beca622b0479ff3fa62/Derby-Ink-Game-1/Vice-Squad/Harm-City

http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-game/30ee6254366e4666bf7f23c4c288f37a/Derby-Ink-Game-7/Rogue/Love-City

All this was done with very simple setup.  It was quite simple to complete.  From the tournament it self, we also sold a few shirts with the shops section of the tournament.  We were happy to have the game Live Streaming online, sell some shirts and offer ALL our fans LIVE stats of every game at Derby Ink.

As you can also see, each player that played also has their own profile and stats for that game. 

http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-skater/Anita-Bodybag/d92e019b49244e60b16f2ae6c8bd18ba

Its not a lot, but its an absolute incredible start to what promises to be an amazing platform to offer Live Games, Live Streaming, Merchandise Sales and even Live Stats of every player that has used Thors Hammer to play a game.

If you ask me, they are building what could be considered ESPN for Roller Derby.

I just wanted to say thank you to the RDNation Team for building such an impressive platform!

S
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on April 29, 2013, 04:24:40 am
Hey All,

I know this is a WFTDA centric forum mainly, but I wanted to keep this in line with all the other releases we made.

For any of those teams testing or using the MADE rule set, you now have the ability to export the completed MADE stat book at the end of each game via Thor's Hammer.

We blogged about it here, so if your interested, feel free to check it out.

http://blog.rdnation.com/post/49152816661/made-workbook-export-thors-hammer

We are working on the WFTDA workbook next.  We just wanted to prove it can be done first, but also wanted to wait for the new WFTDA workbook to be completed because of the changed rule set.

I hope you guys enjoy this new feature.

You can download the roller derby scoreboard here: http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard

Thanks!

Veggie D.
Title: Exporting the WFTDA Workbook Release
Post by: Veggie Delight on July 17, 2013, 09:12:48 pm
Exporting the WFTDA Workbook Release.

We made a big release we have been working on for a small amount of time.  You can now Export the WFTDA workbook from Our Scoreboard, Thors Hammer.

Before a game, you can export a workbook to be printed out when the scoreboard operator has filled out all Team Rosters, Ref Rosters, and Game information. This will export a completed IBRF page for the workbook.

During a game, you can export the WFTDA workbook to watch the stats of the game be filled in.  Maybe during halftime, you would be interested in looking at stats or updating teams on their stat information.

After the game, you can export the WFTDA workbook to complete any empty information that might not be filled in by Thors Hammer, but when you collect stats properly with the stats collection software within the scoreboard, you WILL have a solid export of the WFTDA workbook. You should only have to finish a few remaining files up which your only minutes away from the ability to email the report to WFTDA.

Thors Hammer will populate the following pages fully if the Team/NSO/Ref Manager is filled out to its fullest, as well as all the stats being taken properly with the stats input pages.  These are all pages required by The WFTDA.

IBRF
Score
Penalties
LineUps

A how to document for your NSO staff can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sdh7hoRnIWyQm8DdvP7jmIoo93VRSdxblOt3YKeVhBk/edit (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sdh7hoRnIWyQm8DdvP7jmIoo93VRSdxblOt3YKeVhBk/edit)

Announcers Page, with this release, we also included an announcer page, which announcers can use to talk about jam stats, player stats, etc...  This can be found under the Stats/Mobile Button.

We have been in contact with a MAJOR tournament and in the next week, they will be using Thors Hammer as their primary scoreboard, stats collection and workbook reporting software.  We have already tested the workbook feature at multiple bouts and one other tournament.  We fully believe with this upgrade, Thors Hammer is by far the best and most advanced roller derby scoreboard there is.  We hope you will too.

There are over 700 leagues using the scoreboard from around the world.  If your league hasn't started using it yet, we ask you to give it a try.

We have received expressed permission from The WFTDA to populate the workbook with Thors Hammer.

Thanks for listening everyone!

You can download the scoreboard here: http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard (http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard)

The blog post is here: http://blog.rdnation.com/post/55713526074/exporting-the-wftda-stats-workbook (http://blog.rdnation.com/post/55713526074/exporting-the-wftda-stats-workbook)

The scoreboard can be seen out in the wild here: http://zebras.rdnation.com/yaf_postst49_Places-the-RDNation-Scoreboard-has-been.aspx (http://zebras.rdnation.com/yaf_postst49_Places-the-RDNation-Scoreboard-has-been.aspx)

Veggie Delight
Title: Tracking Official Reviews For Roller Derby Games
Post by: Veggie Delight on July 22, 2013, 06:42:23 pm
We just released another version of our Roller Derby Scoreboard today.  This release has everything to do with Official Reviews.

Your league can now track and record all the official reviews of a bout.  This is mainly used for The WFTDA rule set, but when an official review occurs, the scoreboard operator can click on Official Review.

Once opened, they can keep the window open and move it anywhere on the screen. 

Once an official review has been completed, the scoreboard operator can type in the details of the review along with the result of the review.

For each review, The WFTDA workbook will be populated with the details of the review.  This includes both the period time, jam time and even fills in the head referee and official review tracker when filled in on the NSO Manager.

We hope this button will make the scoreboard operation and bout tracking a little more effective and helpful over time.

You can download the scoreboard here: http://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard

Veggie Delight
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on July 22, 2013, 08:21:36 pm
To Add to this, we at RDNation are interested in hearing what folks want next for the scoreboard.

If any of the leagues use the scoreboard and want to help improve it.  Please just make suggestions here.  We are all ears!

Thanks for making the scoreboard very successful! We appreciate all the love we get.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on February 24, 2014, 03:35:31 pm
I just wanted to tell everyone that we just released new Tutorial videos on the RDNation scoreboard.  These videos cover pretty much everything within the Scoreboard and our technology.

On a side note: This scoreboard will be used at the Mens World Cup and will be providing the LIVE stats online both at the World Cup Website and RDNation.

So take a peak!

http://blog.rdnation.com/post/77706140106/tutorial-videos-released-for-the-rdnation-roller-derby (http://blog.rdnation.com/post/77706140106/tutorial-videos-released-for-the-rdnation-roller-derby)

Introduction to the Scoreboard

http://youtu.be/ctizRmwG0Cs (http://youtu.be/ctizRmwG0Cs)

Team Manager Introduction for the Teams/Referees and NSOs

http://youtu.be/iB7ZCie1V9M (http://youtu.be/iB7ZCie1V9M)

Stats Collection for NSOs and Export them to The WFTDA / MADE workbooks

http://youtu.be/xUMig3CcVqc (http://youtu.be/xUMig3CcVqc)


Video Overlay Controls and how to Modify them for the Scoreboard

http://youtu.be/EUFv8JJQM2I (http://youtu.be/EUFv8JJQM2I)


Uploading the Finished Games and Showing the Stats LIVE on RDNation

http://youtu.be/RfT5Ge0bdJw (http://youtu.be/RfT5Ge0bdJw)


Tournament Walkthrough and Controls for RDNation

http://youtu.be/0sp6Zj1HvQw (http://youtu.be/0sp6Zj1HvQw)


Adding Paywalls to Your Tournament and Game for Live Streaming

http://youtu.be/ZGLawD9vxuM (http://youtu.be/ZGLawD9vxuM)



We hope you enjoyed these videos as much as we enjoyed making them!
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on March 14, 2014, 07:00:51 pm
Just wanted to give everyone a quick update.

If you didn't notice, the RDNation scoreboard is being used at the Mens Roller Derby World Cup and its supplying all the stats for the event directly from the scoreboard it self.

So if your wondering if the scoreboard is in good shape or not to use at tournaments, this should be the proof needed to start using the RDNation scoreboard.

Feel free to ask questions.
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Lalato on March 15, 2014, 10:31:01 pm
Video overlay?
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on March 16, 2014, 07:12:31 pm
Yes, its also supplying the video overlay for the tournament.

Its an all in one feature set.  It does everything needed for a derby tournament/game.

Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on April 05, 2014, 05:44:55 am
We were asked from Video Producers and the State TV up in Alaska to add two more URL switches to the Video overlay we provide in the scoreboard.

So we added the two new url switches vertical and tsize.

vertical will move the overlay up and down on the screen from bottom to top.

tsize adjusts the font size of the overlay up and down.

So two more variables who can modify the heck out of the RDNation scoreboard overlay.

We also decided to bump it up to version 2.0.0 after the successful run of the scoreboard at the Mens World Cup.

View the blog post here: http://blog.rdnation.com/post/81750473702/just-released-our-roller-derby-scoreboard-2-0

Feel free to download it here: https://rdnation.com/roller-derby-scoreboard
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on April 12, 2014, 04:01:56 am
We just released a couple more additions to the mobile controls on the scoreboard.

Blogged about them here, but we allowed you edit the period time, jam time and jam number.

Hope you all enjoy the updates.

http://blog.rdnation.com/post/75913672058/mobile-controls-for-the-scoreboard
Title: Re: New Scoreboard For Roller Derby
Post by: Veggie Delight on April 25, 2014, 03:26:07 pm
We just released another update to the scoreboard today. 

We included an end of period buzzer.  So if you hook a speaker up to the computer running the scoreboard and turn the buzzer on, you can get a buzzer to end the period.  You can also upload your own buzzer in case you don't like the default one.

More details here: http://blog.rdnation.com/post/83786110037/scoreboard-update-end-of-period-buzzer