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WFTDA => General Ref Discussion => Topic started by: Bishop on May 15, 2009, 03:00:17 pm

Title: Referees unite and respond!
Post by: Bishop on May 15, 2009, 03:00:17 pm
I decided to take a break from studying up on 4.0 rules and post a link to this "piece" on roller derby in the Metro Pulse, "Knoxville's Own Demolition Derby".   I've seen a lot of heated responses from roller girls to this article and one or two from referees.   Still, I'd like to see more referees respond.  There are some intelligent and eloquent writers on this forum and I would encourage them read the article and respond to the editor.  On a personal note, even though I am a very new referee, I've reffed bouts with the wonderful lady who was on the cover of this story.  She was rather upset about the whole thing.

http://www.metropulse.com/news/2009/may/13/knoxvilles-own-demolition-derby/   
Title: Re: Referees unite and respond!
Post by: lets get it Shawn on May 15, 2009, 03:33:57 pm
Thanks bishop for posting this I have seen a couple outstanding referees and there eloquent words on this post already. Thanks, all who has and will post on it I am sure that the girls of my league appreciate it, too. Subsequently, it made my blood boil when I read it the first time and even more when I saw the actual 11-page hard copy she was talking about; it is even worse. On a good note the unification of skaters and referees against this article, internationally, did give me warm fuzzes.   

<----tear swells up.....No I am a Referee I don't cry.....
Title: Re: Referees unite and respond!
Post by: L8R SK8R on May 15, 2009, 03:58:02 pm
I've already posted this in my league's Yahoo group, and on Facebook. Let the hailstorm continue!

The sad part is that with an editor who consider this crap to be called journalism, the hundred or more comments already posted will probably be chalked up by them as "disgruntled amateurs" or some similar BS.

And people wonder why newspapers are dropping like flies...
Title: Re: Referees unite and respond!
Post by: Bishop on May 15, 2009, 04:15:12 pm
The sad part is that with an editor who consider this crap to be called journalism, the hundred or more comments already posted will probably be chalked up by them as "disgruntled amateurs" or some similar BS.

Yeah, the unfortunate thing is that I get the feeling that that's what the writer was hoping for - the "shock value" of the story.  Passionate responses, while certainly understandable, may only serve to perpetuate misconceptions about the sport.  That's why I thought I'd enlist the help of referees who could potentially distance themselves from their emotional responses and provide thoughtful refutation to the story. 
   
Title: Re: Referees unite and respond!
Post by: Bishop on May 15, 2009, 09:12:39 pm
On a good note the unification of skaters and referees against this article, internationally, did give me warm fuzzes.  

The geek in me is wondering if there has ever been a sport like the present incarnation of roller derby in the course of human history that has spread so far and so quickly.  It is truly a phenomenon fueled in part by the Internet.  When is someone going to write about that?

I'm not that familiar with articles written about the sport of roller derby so I don't know how common this libelous BS is.  However, I couldn't help but wonder if this article was a good sign - like maybe we're popular enough to pick on now.  


On a related note, I was on the local evening news last night explaining the rules of roller derby during a segment about my league.  I did my best and nothing I said that they aired was incorrect. <whew>  Actually, I think I gave them too much detail.  They aired a blurb of me explaining how points are scored - then cut away with the commentator saying, "so the rules aren't that simple."  ;D I had also went into great detail explaining legal blocking zones and target zones which they didn't air.  We'd been burned by some incorrect information about the sport in a local paper so I erred on the side of over-explaining.  Someone really needs to come up with a good "Roller Derby for Idiots" explanation in pamphlet form that we can hand to the media.  Oh, and they also showed me getting knocked on my butt during a hip check drill.  

Here's the video link for anyone who doesn't mind wading through the first few minutes of the evening news (snore):

[update: direct link to story] http://www.whsv.com/video/?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=3763009

The segment starts at 5:38 and my moment of glory begins at 7:30.  Of course, me being me, I get caught with my pants down - I didn't have a Fox40 whistle.  What I had is the most pathetic excuse for a whistle that you'll ever find.  If you listen closely (and I mean really closely), you hear the raspy whistley sound my whistle makes.  

I will say this, they did do a good job with the segment.  I thought it was a fair treatment of the sport and they sidestepped a lot of the cliches.

Title: Re: Referees unite and respond!
Post by: lets get it Shawn on May 15, 2009, 09:33:46 pm
On a good note the unification of skaters and referees against this article, internationally, did give me warm fuzzes.   

The geek in me is wondering if there has ever been a sport like the present incarnation of roller derby in the course of human history that has spread so far and so quickly.  It is truly a phenomenon fueled in part by the Internet.  When is someone going to write about that?

I'm not that familiar with articles written about the sport of roller derby so I don't know how common this libelous BS is.  However, I couldn't help but wonder if this article was a good sign - like maybe we're popular enough to pick on now. 


I guess these are the better article and starting to become more of the norm; these were posted by annawrecksya. You should check them out :)

BOSTON GLOBE
"Four on the Floor"--outlines the backgrounds of some skaters, none of them are tattoo artists.
http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/artic...

NEW YORK TIMES
"You Just Can’t Keep the Girls From Jamming"
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/01/mag...

"The Dude of Roller Derby and His Vision"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/18/spo...

CHICAGO TRIBUNE
"Rollers chase glory--and revenge"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/service...

ESPN
"Roller Derby Revival" (Nominated for an Emmy this year)
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/v...

NEWSWEEK
"Girls on Wheels"
http://www.newsweek.com/id/40211?bcpi...#?l=1785302026&t=1507768968
Title: Re: Referees unite and respond!
Post by: Bishop on May 15, 2009, 09:53:16 pm

I just checked IMDb and that Drew Barrymore movie "Whip it!" is scheduled for an October 9 release date.  If the movie does well at all, you can expect an onslaught of media attention focused on our sport.  Maybe we zebras should put our heads together a bit and think about how we can portray our sport in such a way that honors tradition, acknowledges its aesthetic, and yet touts its emergence as a legitimate sport. 

Title: Re: Referees unite and respond!
Post by: Major Wood on May 16, 2009, 07:14:14 pm
As far as other sports spreading quickly, look at mixed martial arts (namely the UFC organization).
The UFC has been around since the early 90's and their rules (or lack thereof) made it difficult to find venues they would be allowed in. Over time, they tightened down the rules and made it a sport that requires much more skill than brute force. Though it has been around much longer than the modern incarnation of derby, mixed martial arts has exploded in popularity in the last few years. To the point where the fighters are able to make 6 digit purses for each fight, on top of their salaries.
Title: Re: Referees unite and respond!
Post by: Bishop on May 18, 2009, 02:45:23 pm
Thank you all for responding!

I definitely saw some names I recognized responding to that article.  I don't know if my initial posting here prompted any of you but I appreciate your responses regardless. 

Wood – Mixed Martial Arts did cross my mind when I was musing about the spread and popularity of roller derby.  If you use 2001 as the start date for the present incarnation of roller derby, the sport is still approximately 10 years younger than MMA.  I think it's a helpful to examine the rise in popularity of MMA and see what lessons could be applied to roller derby.  I know the UFC president credits a large part of the UFC's success to "The Ultimate Fighter" reality show.  Any ideas of how we can get a roller derby reality show back on TV? 

The main difference I see between the growth of MMA and roller derby is the role of the Internet.  Maybe I'm way off but it just seems to me that the Internet played a critical role in the development and spread of the sport.  I think the growth of derby is unique and fascinating because of it's the utilization of the Internet and the grassroots DIY nature of the sport. 
Title: Re: Referees unite and respond!
Post by: ttjustice on May 18, 2009, 04:33:41 pm
Here is one that was done on our league I wasn't even aware was being filmed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpDM6Vj1UJw

Title: Re: Referees unite and respond!
Post by: Bishop on May 18, 2009, 05:23:42 pm
Here is one that was done on our league I wasn't even aware was being filmed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpDM6Vj1UJw



I liked the tone of the report.  It almost reminded me of a BBC special or something.


CNN just posted a story and video on the Mason Dixon Roller Vixens.  My team is scheduled to scrimmage them this weekend.  I can't be certain but I think I spied DayGlo in the video clip.  It was a really quick glimpse, but I think it was her.  :) 

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/18/health.minute.roller.derby/index.html?iref=mpstoryview#cnnSTCVideo
Title: Re: Referees unite and respond!
Post by: DayGlo Divine on May 19, 2009, 06:04:52 am
Here is one that was done on our league I wasn't even aware was being filmed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpDM6Vj1UJw



I liked the tone of the report.  It almost reminded me of a BBC special or something.


CNN just posted a story and video on the Mason Dixon Roller Vixens.  My team is scheduled to scrimmage them this weekend.  I can't be certain but I think I spied DayGlo in the video clip.  It was a really quick glimpse, but I think it was her.  :) 

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/18/health.minute.roller.derby/index.html?iref=mpstoryview#cnnSTCVideo

Guilty as charged. My dad's all thrilled and stuff.
Title: Re: Referees unite and respond!
Post by: the pantichrist on May 19, 2009, 05:01:46 pm
Yup, I posted a couple of comments last week but I signed them with my real name.