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WFTDA => General Ref Discussion => Topic started by: Riff Reff on May 27, 2009, 01:55:19 pm

Title: Penalty Box Communication
Post by: Riff Reff on May 27, 2009, 01:55:19 pm
I have two questions:

How do your NSOs communicate issues like skaters entering from the wrong direction or skaters leaving too early?
Call for an OPR? Calling for the Head Ref between Jams?

Do you let the NSOs tell the skaters things like "You came from the wrong direction, I am not timing you!" ?
Title: Re: Penalty Box Communication
Post by: JoeXCore on May 27, 2009, 02:24:09 pm
Our penalty box is by the turn 3 whiteboard giving The Box easy access to a ref.

I'm thinking "your time has not began" is equivalent to telling a girl how much time she has left.
Title: Re: Penalty Box Communication
Post by: bronco on May 28, 2009, 07:07:57 pm
We started using a third "penalty box monitor" , preferably a ref-in-training.  The monitors job is to get the attention of an OPR, or talk directly with the Head Ref between jams.  If a skater leaves early, skates clockwise, crosses the pass line and refuses to take another lap, then the monitor recommends an Illegal Procedure, and reports it as "Color, Number, Illegal Procedure"

In practice, the OPRs simply do not pay attention to the penalty box, so the monitor has to bring it to the head ref.

The monitor also comes in handy when both jammers come into the box.
Title: Re: Penalty Box Communication
Post by: Miss Trie on May 28, 2009, 07:25:12 pm
This is how we do it:

If a skater leaves the box early, the PB timer reports it to an OPR. The OPR assesses the major IP penalty. The refs get her back in the box to serve her major + the time left on her previous penalty. The OP ref who assessed the penalty skates in and tells the head ref what happened/whats going on between jams.  If the PB timer can't get an OPR attention, they wait until the end of the jam and report it to the head ref.

If she passes the PONR line or skates clockwise, the PB timer doesn't start her penalty time until she takes another lap.  No penalty is assessed for passing hte line or skating clockwise.  If she sits and doesn't take another lap she is just wasting time because her penalty time hasn't started.
Title: Re: Penalty Box Communication
Post by: Riff Reff on May 28, 2009, 07:30:32 pm
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If she sits and doesn't take another lap she is just wasting time because her penalty time hasn't started.

so you don't tell her that her time does not start?
Title: Re: Penalty Box Communication
Post by: Miss Trie on May 28, 2009, 07:32:28 pm
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If she sits and doesn't take another lap she is just wasting time because her penalty time hasn't started.

so you don't tell her that her time does not start?

Oh yes.  The timer tells her that her penalty time hasn't started and she needs to take another lap before it will. Sorry I left that part out.