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WFTDA => General Ref Discussion => Topic started by: Kitty Jager on February 10, 2018, 06:09:01 am

Title: Pacemaker
Post by: Kitty Jager on February 10, 2018, 06:09:01 am
I am just starting to come back to derby after a few years out. I had a pacemaker put in over a little over a year and I'm just starting to get back to me. I left derby as a head reff and head NSO and I'm trying to get all caught on the changes. I am going to start with Jam Timing. I was more of a lurker than a poster previously. I was wondering 2 things.

What are going to be some of the biggest changes/adjustments?

Have you ever heard of a skater or reff returning to a skating position after getting a pacemaker?
Title: Re: Pacemaker
Post by: AdamSmasher on February 12, 2018, 03:27:36 am
I'm afraid I don't know anything about pacemakers, other than the fact that you aren't allowed to get near the magnet in my lab under any circumstances.

But for Jam Timing, here's what I can think of off the top of my head.

1. Jam Timers are now, by default, authorized to issue "Interference" penalties.  This is the category that used to be known as "Delay of Game."  If you notice that a queued skater isn't on the track, or one team has somehow neglected to field any blockers, or the like, you can on your own recognizance call a timeout at 29 seconds and issue the penalty yourself.

The head referee can withdraw that authority, but if they do not specifically do so, it's yours by default.

2. When you start the jam, your "point" is supposed to be at the area in front of the foremost blocker, not the pivot line.

3. Dunno how long you've been out, but there's a hand signal for "Official Review" now. (That's been around for a while.)

Those are the main changes I can think of that affect the JT, although I may be forgetting something.  You can read the officiating standard procedures here:

WFTDA Officiating Procedures (https://static.wftda.com/officiating/wftda-officiating-procedures.pdf)
Title: Re: Pacemaker
Post by: Ref Leppard on February 12, 2018, 03:59:00 am
Just for a clarification (not trying to hijack)  but in regards to this:

]2. When you start the jam, your "point" is supposed to be at the area in front of the foremost blocker, not the pivot line.[/i][/i]

The officiating practice simply tells them to point there.  Are they still standing at the pivot line and pointing to the are in front of foremost blocker now?

Thanks and Welcome back Kitty Jager!
Title: Re: Pacemaker
Post by: AdamSmasher on February 12, 2018, 02:18:08 pm
Just for a clarification (not trying to hijack)  but in regards to this:

]2. When you start the jam, your "point" is supposed to be at the area in front of the foremost blocker, not the pivot line.[/i][/i]

The officiating practice simply tells them to point there.  Are they still standing at the pivot line and pointing to the are in front of foremost blocker now?

Thanks and Welcome back Kitty Jager!

I don't think there's any specific documentation about *where* to stand.  My personal understanding is very situational.  Order of priority in my mind:

1. My own personal safety
2. Visible to skaters
3. Visible to scoreboard operator

When I'm jam timing, I will generally stand as close as possible to the track, and try to be within about 10 feet of the front of the pack if I can get there subject to 1-3 above.  But every venue is different.

It's also important to remember that you're taking the 25 seconds and 30 seconds from the scoreboard, not from your personal watch, so you should also try to position yourself so that it's not too difficult to do so.  The west track at Pittsburgh playoffs was murder on that score, since the SB was in turn 2.

Lots of competing imperatives, but the short answer is "No, you don't have to stand at the pivot line."