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Re: Order of Operations for Pre-Bout happiness
« Reply #120 on: February 27, 2010, 03:24:34 pm »
I know many times skaters will remove helmets for the intros, so I'd hate to do the check before then.  On the other hand, though, they also can remove their helmets at the bench, and I'm not their mom, so I shouldn't have to check again.  Does it matter?  Is there a way which makes things flow more smoothly?

I just realized I didn't really answer the question you asked. My opinion is that we do the equipment checks to make sure they actually have the required gear and that it is adjusted to fit properly. After that, if they try to get into a jam with something unstrapped or missing, it's time for penalties. And yes, I realize that contradicts my statements in another thread about mouthguards. I still don't like the idea of a skater losing a tooth when I could prevent it, but I tend to follow the lead of a ZH majority.
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Re: Pre-Bout Meeting and other Head Ref advice
« Reply #121 on: February 27, 2010, 04:11:45 pm »
Yep. We do our equipment checks post-intro, just before the first skaters get on the track. We are also going to have our penalty trackers walk over with the refs to make sure the numbers they have are correct.

Are we the last crew out there that checks toe stops?

No, I still check toe stops as a courtesy since it only takes an extra moment.  I know its not required but if I can prevent a jam call off for a toe stop sitting on the track by taking the few extra seconds to check, I think its worth it.  The skaters seem to appreciate it too.
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Re: Order of Operations for Pre-Bout happiness
« Reply #122 on: February 27, 2010, 04:56:36 pm »
My opinion is that we do the equipment checks to make sure they actually have the required gear and that it is adjusted to fit properly. After that, if they try to get into a jam with something unstrapped or missing, it's time for penalties.

In RCRD we do safety checks before intros.   It speeds up the start of the game between intros and first game.  Brad's logic is exactly the reason we don't worry about doing it closer to the first jam.
 
And yes, I realize that contradicts my statements in another thread about mouthguards. I still don't like the idea of a skater losing a tooth when I could prevent it, but I tend to follow the lead of a ZH majority.

Important point here.   Yes mouthguards protect against teeth and soft tissue injuries.  But you can still lose a tooth through a mouthguard, so don't expect total tooth protection.  More importantly though, mouthguards help protect against concussions by absorbing force from an impact on the chin on the way to the brain.
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Re: Pre-Bout Meeting and other Head Ref advice
« Reply #123 on: February 27, 2010, 05:40:35 pm »
No, I've seen a few crews check toe-stops.



I'll stop checking toe stops when I stop finding a third of the skaters having one or two that are loose at gentle pressure from my fingers  :)

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Re: Pre-Bout Meeting and other Head Ref advice
« Reply #124 on: February 27, 2010, 06:19:55 pm »
I do equipment checks before intros. It normally happens in the locker rooms.
I give the announcer the OK to start the bout rolling (get ready for intros, etc.) after I finish with equipment checks. Nothing starts until I give the ok for equipment. We also do our number check vs the submitted roster at the same time.

I also do check toe stops. Though I'm debating whether I should be confirming that the toe stop has been secured after I tell them to do it, or if I should just tell them it's loose and leave it at that.
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Re: Pre-Bout Meeting and other Head Ref advice
« Reply #125 on: February 27, 2010, 06:22:03 pm »
Oh! I suggest having your captains meeting immediately following the ref meeting. That way all the refs are still there and any questions the captains have can be answered and all your refs get the information right then and there.

It's always a pain to chase everyone down and make sure you relay any new info later.
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Re: Pre-Bout Meeting and other Head Ref advice
« Reply #126 on: February 27, 2010, 06:36:45 pm »
Oh! I suggest having your captains meeting immediately following the ref meeting. That way all the refs are still there and any questions the captains have can be answered and all your refs get the information right then and there.

It's always a pain to chase everyone down and make sure you relay any new info later.

Oh, it is.  The head of our NSOs goes off with his NSO crew with any specifics he needs for them, and at that time we hold the captain meeting.  And, I'd like to mention that for the first time ever, at this bout, we have a large enough stats crew to track all the optional stuff like assists and errors and such.  I'm pretty excited.
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Re: Pre-Bout Meeting and other Head Ref advice
« Reply #127 on: March 01, 2010, 06:42:38 pm »
Copy the end resulting list for the thread, make a new sticky thread, lock it, and make the title easily identifyable to the info contained. Then place all those "sticky info threads" in one subforum with a name something like "Helpfull ideas for refs"

 

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