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illegal procedure - 4th minor
« on: March 24, 2011, 04:13:43 pm »
6.13.7 awards a minor penalty to an extra pivot
( 6.13.7 More than one designated Pivot for a team on the track after the starting whistle. The
penalty is issued to the Pivot who was the last Pivot to enter the track in that jam. If the
referee is unable to determine the last Pivot to enter the track, the referee issuing the
illegal procedure must penalize the Pivot on the track closest to the referee who calls the
penalty. After the whistle, the referee must instruct her to return to her bench if she is an
extra skater on the track (see Section 6.13.6). Any Pivot starting in the penalty box is
the designated Pivot for that jam.)

If this happens to be her fourth minor, when does she serve the time?  If we apply 7.1.1.2
(7.1.1.2 ...commits 4 minor penalties must serve one (1) minute at the time the fourth minor is assessed / communicated...)  she would have to serve her time right then, i.e. when the fourth penalty is assessed, but she is actually not in play then.  This would be a meaningless penalty.

I am new to this, so perhaps this has been answered before, but I couldn't find it. 

A similar situstion exists for 6.13.26 Bench staff violation (major) - it is given to pivot in that jam, if no pivot then it goes to the captain.  What happens if the Captain is not in that jam?  Again, it would be a meaningless penalty.  (The rules actually don't have similar wording for a major as they do for a minor, i.e. "...at the time the ...minor is assessed/communicated..."  for a major only 7.3.2  would apply:  ...when a skater is sent to the penalty box, she must immediately exit the track and...   

 

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Re: illegal procedure - 4th minor
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2011, 04:34:31 pm »
Good Morning and welcome to The Huddle!

She would have to serve her penalty time in the next jam, same for the bench staff violation situation you mentioned.  After the current jam ends, you inform her of the penalty and she goes to the box.  If the box is full then she must participate in the next jam so she can then serve her penalty when there is an open space.  Make sense?
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Re: illegal procedure - 4th minor
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2011, 07:20:28 pm »
thanx, makes sense - I just don't specifically see it in the rules

 

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