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Quick penalty box question
« on: June 01, 2011, 03:55:25 am »
Hi All,
Is it ok for a skater seated / standing in the penalty box to have one skate (or any part of her) touching outside the Box?

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Re: Quick penalty box question
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2011, 04:08:16 pm »
This is not defined in the WFTDA rules or any WFTDA document that I have seen posted anywhere, so you should not expect any answer here to even approach official or "correct"

I recommend asking the head ref for every bout.
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Re: Quick penalty box question
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2011, 04:42:04 pm »
There is no specific rule regarding that, because penalty boxen are so venue-dependent.

As an HR, if there were lots of room in the PB, I would mention in the pre-bout CA meeting that this would be considered as straddling is to the track.

Alternately, you might consider it the way someone managing to keep a body part just on that good side of the point of no return line.

If the PB were very small though, I would be inclined to definitely make it a no call.
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Re: Quick penalty box question
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2011, 08:59:38 pm »
The 8/2010 Standardized Practices says,

[rule]So long as the skater is somehow touching the floor within the
boundaries of the furthest forward edge of the Penalty Box (the
"Point of No Return"), they should still be considered to be in the box, and
so need not skate around to enter the box. The boundary line is to be
considered in.[/rule]

in answer to the (posed) question:

[rule]At what point is a skater to be considered entering the box
from a clockwise direction?"[/rule]

That seems relevant here.

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Re: Quick penalty box question
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2011, 09:07:02 pm »
The 8/2010 Standardized Practices says,

[rule]So long as the skater is somehow touching the floor within the
boundaries of the furthest forward edge of the Penalty Box (the
"Point of No Return"), they should still be considered to be in the box, and
so need not skate around to enter the box. The boundary line is to be
considered in.[/rule]

in answer to the (posed) question:

[rule]At what point is a skater to be considered entering the box
from a clockwise direction?"[/rule]

That seems relevant here.


I consider this only slightly relevant as it is comparable to straddling, as pointed out by FN they are in for somethings and out for others.

I have worked as penalty box manager a number of times with a literal box taped out on the floor and had to strain my voice to have someone standing at one edge of it hear me. I am glad they were as close as they were.

However Dave since you bring this up... and it is something we can cite, I think it is a good standard. I have acknowledged and decided not to use it many times in the past, and as of this moment I think my opinion is changed. Seeing something in writing at all makes decisions feel a lot easier.
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