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Re: Wranglers
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2011, 09:57:53 pm »
That depends.  Is said Wrangler watching the action because, Hey, I get to watch derby from the center of the track and it's awesome!  Or is said Wrangler watching the action to better anticipate refs' calls?

An excellent point!  If it's the watching to anticipate calls, that's definitely useful.
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Re: Wranglers
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2011, 12:12:48 am »
+1

If you're keeping up with the pack refs (which most everyone agrees is a good idea if you're a wrangler), keeping the action in your line of sight along with your refs will allow you to anticipate skaters getting knocked to the infield as well as anticipating stepping out of the way of jam refs as they skate past the pack refs. In some cases on the apexes I'll step further towards the center and stand still so I'm no longer an obstruction to the increased mix of refs.
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Re: Wranglers
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2011, 08:58:37 pm »
I'd rather have no wrangler than a bad one. It's one of those jobs that is really hard to teach someone to do right before a bout. Someone with a little whiteboard right beside/behind me as I skate around has become one of my most favorite things in officiating.

But if they're stationary, or inattentive, or easily flustered? This is not the job for them.

Honestly, the better option is to have someone who has done penalty tracking a bunch beforehand become the wrangler.  They'll know the penalty abbreviations, hand signs, and they'll know what they're watching and listening for.  If your wrangler is good enough, you can put a less experienced person on tracker.

Roc City's fortunate to have an exceptional wrangler, Barry Special.  He's attentive, catches penalties as they're called, monitors the owbs and penalty box whiteboard, and most of the time even catches the outside pack refs' calls before they can get to the whiteboard.  The refs rarely even have to turn their heads away from the pack.  He keeps pace with them and always seems to know where to be.  He projects well, so the trackers get nice, clear penalties called to them.  He's calm, even when dealing with torrential downpours of penalties.  Honestly, I'm tempted to interview him and add a third appendix to my manual.
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Re: Wranglers
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2011, 04:03:59 pm »
Recently had my 1st bout as an NSO on PT (with a 2nd PT and Inside whiteboard) and I found having a Wrangler extreamly useful. Especially in this case as it was another (more experianced) Ref.

prehaps it is a possition for a more senior ref thats off skates for some reason (Injury or in this case was Refing the main bout )

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Re: Wranglers
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2012, 04:14:58 pm »
  Honestly, I'm tempted to interview him and add a third appendix to my manual.

I've been thinking of putting one together for my league as well - just for the sheer awesomeness of our 2 experienced wranglers.  They make things go so much smoother.
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Re: Wranglers
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2012, 02:26:49 pm »
I would have to agree that having a good wrangler can make things a LOT easier for the penalty trackers.  We recently had a very experienced ref wrangle for us at a bout (I was a PT for that bout) and he totally SCHOOLED us on what a good wrangler should do (LOUDLY repeating penalties, calm re-repeating of them when multiple penalties came in, constantly following the refs...he was AWESOME).

 

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