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Standard practices/verbal cues for communication between refs?
« on: October 11, 2011, 04:32:18 am »
Is there any standard practice or verbal cues for communication exclusively between refs?  For example if an IPR is trying to communicate to a Jammer Ref that the Jammer has commited a Cutting Minor, my feeling is that the verbal cues for "announcing" the penalty (to the skater, NSO, etc) should NOT be used, as it may confuse the skater/NSOs/Jammer Ref into assuming the penalty has already been called as opposed to pointing out the penalty or "recommending" that the penalty be called by the Jammer Ref.

It had been suggested to me that since verbal cues exist, they must be used, even if the penalty is not being called but just pointed out to another ref, but I disagree.  For once thing, the verbal cues specifically mention an "announcement" which is obviously for the making of the call itself.  And secondly, how the hell would refs ever properly communicate to each other if they were restricted to formulaic phrases?!

Input is appreciated.

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Re: Standard practices/verbal cues for communication between refs?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 04:52:14 am »
The verbal cues are for ref-to-skater communication. Ref-to-ref communication is unregulated, though there are some widespread practices. For instance, the forward pack ref will often repeatedly tell a jam ref "they're in, they're in, they're in..." to indicate that blockers are still in play and allowed to hit the jammer. But I've also heard "they're good, they're good, they're good...", and that works fine too.

Having some predetermined phrases makes communication easier, but the longer the list, the more work it takes to make the list useful. (Everyone has to memorize the list.) And you also need to be able to communicate things you couldn't have seen coming.
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Re: Standard practices/verbal cues for communication between refs?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 06:02:18 pm »
There aren't any Standard Practices for it but there are common practices(as in that's just how we usually work it).

Pack Ref to Jam Ref - "Minor cut, your jammer" or "Minor Cut, Black Jammer", jam ref calls a cut when a skater went down or out "She went out, no call" or "she went down, no call". First jammer out doesn't get lead "Lead is open", or if the first jammer out did get lead "Black is lead". Also "in, in, in, in, Out of play" or "good, good, good, Foremost out of play" to communicate only one blocker is out of play.

Pack Ref to Pack Ref - "Pack is front", "Pack is back", "Pack is all", "All in", "That's the pace"(to indicate established pack speed).

Variations are fine as long as it's clear and concise.

 

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