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Offline ftard

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JR Minor Signaling
« on: March 16, 2009, 07:26:49 am »
This is not required by any means of course, but when we Zebras at ACDG are JR-ing we have been signaling to the jammers their number of minors from the moment they line up till the jammer whistle blows regardless of whether there is a 3 board in place or not, and we do it merely by holding the number of minors out in front of us via fingers, with a closed fist for Zero...whether or not they bother to take note of their status is up to them.
 
It's an easy, concise way for each jammer to know where they stand without having to squint at a scribbly 3 board in the middle, and it also verifies that the JR is aware of the jammers status as well...y'all know some of em dick around from time to time.

We have noticed that the ladies who take note of these signals adjust their play accordingly... especially when they see the 3 Fingers Of Doom.

And as a side bonus it cements solid communication and confirmation between the PTs n JR's.

Have you ever experimented with this?

Thank you

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Re: JR Minor Signaling
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 01:05:20 pm »
We have started to do pretty much the same thing in Nashville. The only difference is that we drop the signal on the first whistle, instead of the double whistle.
To elaborate on something you said, I don't like to grab the skater's attention. If she looks, great. If not, that's her call.

It's also helpful to the other jammer ref. When you see the other jammer ref holding up a three, you know there's a strong chance that you may be counting NOTT points on the other jammer.
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Re: JR Minor Signaling
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009, 01:30:24 pm »
We have started to do pretty much the same thing in Nashville. The only difference is that we drop the signal on the first whistle, instead of the double whistle.
To elaborate on something you said, I don't like to grab the skater's attention. If she looks, great. If not, that's her call.

It's also helpful to the other jammer ref. When you see the other jammer ref holding up a three, you know there's a strong chance that you may be counting NOTT points on the other jammer.

We've just started doing this as well. I find it most useful for myself as it really helps me keep track, especially since our league is still experimenting with tracking boards. My PT just signals to me, I hold out my arm, and then drop it once the Jam starts.
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Re: JR Minor Signaling
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2009, 02:11:56 pm »
This has been the standard practice at WFTDA tournaments.
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Re: JR Minor Signaling
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009, 02:19:00 pm »
great input, I just updated my Ref Handbook and put it in there. I love ZH!
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Re: JR Minor Signaling
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009, 05:08:59 pm »
We do this as well.  I like having the information and I know the players do too.  It seems like one of those "small" things we can do to foster good communications between players and refs. 
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Re: JR Minor Signaling
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2009, 05:22:58 pm »
This has been the standard practice at WFTDA tournaments.

It's also standard practice to have a huge whiteboard in the middle with everyone's minors tracked. That way they all know how much they have before they even get on the track. And its makes the ref signaling minors a nice-to-have addition instead of the only way to communicate minors.

And that way skaters can still see how many minors they have in case the jam ref forgets to do it one time.
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Re: JR Minor Signaling
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2009, 07:00:25 pm »
This is something I've been doing since last year.  Make sure in your pre-bout ref meeting that all of your JR's know to do this.  If one does it, the other does too. It is a common practice but some JR's aren't doing this on a regular basis (yet).

I drop the fingers/fist at the 1st whistle. It is her decision to look or not before the jam starts, so anything other than the fingers or fist shouldn't be necessary.
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