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Offline Pallbearer

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NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« on: January 07, 2009, 02:40:52 pm »
OK, check out the region map on www.wftda.com

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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2009, 02:06:18 pm »
You can go directly to the website's certification FAQ for answers to basic questions: http://www.wftda.com/officiating/referee-certification/

If it's not answered there, then contact your regional panel members.
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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2009, 02:19:13 pm »
What if you're not in a WFTDA region?
It'd be great if refs over here could get certified but looks pretty impossible until our leagues are able to join WFTDA also.

Guess we'll all have to save those pennies and head Stateside
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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2009, 02:25:01 pm »
Fly me over and put me up and I'll take care of it.

I'm half-serious.  The downside is that you have to have refereed WFTDA member teams at some point (to receive an evaluation form), which is rather unlikely, I think.
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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2009, 02:29:35 pm »
Wasn't there a Birmingham vs Birmingham game last year? Maybe they should fly some WFTDA teams over there to play.... and me to come watch
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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2009, 02:38:13 pm »
Wasn't there a Birmingham vs Birmingham game last year? Maybe they should fly some WFTDA teams over there to play.... and me to come watch

Think that was cancelled. Anyway I thought both leagues in the bout had to be WFTDA for it to be WFTDA Sanctioned. I believe there are discussions about expanding WFTDA so our leagues can join but have no idea how long that will take. We'd love you to come over anyway though! We're hosting a European Tournament July 18th/19th if anyone wants to come watch.
Ballistic reffed at Rollercon last year - does that count enough for him to get an evaluation?
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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2009, 02:47:21 pm »
Hmm.. maybe, dunno

I'll ask some people in WFTDA and see what I can find out about it
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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2009, 02:55:34 pm »
I am in no way speaking for the WFTDA but...

it is my understanding that Sanctioned bouts are bouts between 2 WFTDA teams that counts toward rankings, and regulation bouts are bouts between 2 WFTDA teams that do not count towards rankings (b-teams etc).
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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2009, 02:58:28 pm »
We're hosting a European Tournament July 18th/19th if anyone wants to come watch.
Ballistic reffed at Rollercon last year - does that count enough for him to get an evaluation?

Unfortunately, no, unless he reffed/officiated the Salt City-Duke City WFTDA sanctioned bout @ Rollercon. I don't think challenge bouts can count as they're not regulation length; otherwise, he'd need to pick up an intraleague game at a WFTDA league somewhere (a home game @ a WFTDA league is good for levels 1/2) .

But I'll see you all for the EuroTourney -- Ballistic invited me over to ref, and I've timed my research trip to London to coincide. Looking forward to seeing everybody again!

And I might-could figure out a way to be allowed to administer the skating test while I was over (maybe  . . I have no idea) ;)

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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 03:29:25 pm »
Angri-la...I will pass along your questions to the rest of the Ref Cert Panel for feedback.  We discussed this issue back a few months ago, so my memory is a little foggy.  Basically, I remember it being said that leagues in other countries (pertaining to Canada and Europe) are eligible to apply if they've reffed WFTDA regulation OR sanctioned bouts (either type of game counts towards Certification) and can get to their nearest WFTDA league to take the rules and skating tests.  I understand that it might be difficult for folks to do in Europe (maybe not so much for some of the leagues in Canada), but unfortunately, there's just not anything that we (the Panel) can do at the moment to make that process any easier due to obvious time, travel and money constraints.  One possible suggestion would be for those folks in London to try to get some of that paperwork taken care of if and when they attend events here in the States (WFTDA bouts, tournaments, RollerCon, boot-camps, etc).  Not much of an option, but it's the only one I can offer right now.

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p.s. JoeXCore is correct about the definations of sanctioned/regulation bouts.

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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2009, 04:36:00 pm »
Thanks everyone!

Joe - thanks, think I had sanctioned and regulation mixed up in my head.

Johnny - Yay! Look forward to meeting you in July then.

Any chance of finding out what the skating test involves so we can get prepared?
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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2009, 05:10:56 pm »
There was supposed to be Birmingham vs Birmingham... But Birmingham, AL is not a WFTDA member league. Both leagues need to be WFTDA leagues though.
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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2009, 06:14:34 pm »
Any chance of finding out what the skating test involves so we can get prepared?

Let me check on that -- skating evaluations "have to be completed by an authorized league representative," so I'd have to find out from the powers that be if it would be appropriate for me to do so in the special case that I was over in the UK. Normally, I think it would be a member of a league's coaching staff, which I am not.

As Pallbearer mentioned the certification materials should be made publicly available by WFTDA soon, and I'm sure he'll let us know :)

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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2009, 06:57:34 pm »
I'll do you one better, J.Z...I posted your proposal back to the Panel and here's the response:

The rules still need to apply regardless of the situation.  It still has to be an approved WFTDA rep administering the tests.  We realize this limits our ability to possibly get certifications for overseas refs right now, but our resources are limited at the moment and we apologize for any inconvenience.

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Re: NON-WFTDA referee certification information
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2009, 07:24:31 pm »
I'll do you one better, J.Z...I posted your proposal back to the Panel and here's the response:

The rules still need to apply regardless of the situation.  It still has to be an approved WFTDA rep administering the tests.  We realize this limits our ability to possibly get certifications for overseas refs right now, but our resources are limited at the moment and we apologize for any inconvenience.

Now that's efficiency! Thx, Leadfoot -- we have our answer.

One question, while we're on the topic: what constitutes an approved WFTDA rep? Does that mean a member of a league's coaching committee, a captain, one of the two listed WFTDA reps for the league, one of the two WFTDA ref reps for the league, a certified ref of a certain level, or  ? ? ? ?

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