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Re: Head Ref - Front or Back Pack Ref?
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2011, 02:32:54 pm »
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Re: Head Ref - Front or Back Pack Ref?
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 11:54:51 am »
She only says please once, then she eats you alive and places your entrails on her ships hull..


When I HR, I prefer to be back. Thankfully where I live is the heart of the Occupy Pivot Line movement, so unless its a powerjam for the most part we don't have skaters lining up on the jammer line; so on a normal line up I'm still close enough to the front pack ref /Jam Timer to make calls as necessary, and this places me right next to the penalty boards at the start, and at our local venue right in line with the scoreboard operator in case I need to signal them for a Time Out.

I like the back for a similar reason another ref (well respected but I forgot who posted it) likes the front. From the back I can see the action 'ahead' of me as well as next to me.
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Re: Head Ref - Front or Back Pack Ref?
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 11:06:54 pm »
Jumping in late but...

I prefer the front. It's not so much about being able to watch the other referees for me (although if something is a problem, good to be able to), it's about what I'm keeping in my head during jams and what calls I'm making.

I'm making the 20' calls. There isn't a call more consistently contested than that one, and I think it's good to have the person being complained to also be the one responsible for them. Sure other calls get contested but... The Umpire is behind home plate.

I can help the Jammer Refs more readily than from the back. Not just on near-simultaneous breaking the packs, but with things like "other jammer has lead", "No lead yet", "other jammer in the box, had lead", "that's a lap", etc. I can wave off LJ when they do earn simultaneous lead. Could a non-HR do that? Yes, but then I'd have to hear about how a Pack Ref decided who was lead, and this way, it's the HR.

But also yes, do what you do. Just don't do it because "everyone does it that way", do it for the reasons they do it.
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