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Author Topic: 2013 Officials Conference planning  (Read 9150 times)

Offline The Gorram Reaver

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Re: 2013 Officials Conference planning
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2012, 08:35:56 pm »
I would be happy to speak more about the ideas to you though PM or a phone call. In fact i would invite more conversation from you as a Level 4 offical

You might be able to generate more support & enthusiasm if you discussed ideas openly with the entire group on this message board, rather than collecting ideas from individuals via a survey and not sharing what those ideas are, or discussing issues via private message with a select few individuals.

This is a community.  You came to the community with vague promises and a way to collect a bunch of peoples ideas/comments and keep them all to yourself, which is directly in conflict with the spirit of open discussion & collaboration this forum represents.  You also want to discuss ideas more in depth with people via private messages or telephone, again, something that doesn't contribute to the community at large, but serves your own purposes with little payback for anyone else.

Open discussion and a sharing of ideas is the best way to generate enthusiasm and support.   Right now, I feel like you're trying to use us, so I'm going to keep my ideas to myself or contribute them in discussions that are being conducted openly as a collaborative efforts to find ways to improve officiating as a community.
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Re: 2013 Officials Conference planning
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2012, 05:56:37 pm »
Suspicion is reasonable. But being a little open minded can't hurt. Why does everyone always suspect that there is someone trying to take something away from you. I would welcome a conference/convention/whateverthismayturninto as long as it's from the officials for the officials. What is wrong with a little brainstorming about what we as a community would like to have and of course maybe pay money for. Even if Mattrrr had only commercial interest (which I doubt) you do not lose anything by sharing your thoughts and maybe make something better instead of being at the sideline and shouting "bad call there".
I understand that Mattrrr just asked "hey what do you guys would think about having an officials conference?"
It's like that scoreboard thread. Instead of bashing it, why not use the chance to say what would make you interested in such an event/product. If you simply dislike the idea, to be frank, then do not share.
Or ask the moderator to remove the thread because you suspect advertising. But then we'd also need to get rid of the gear section.
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Re: 2013 Officials Conference planning
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2012, 11:25:35 pm »
Since I was the first to reply, I'd like to comment.  I did not mean to make it seem like negative message.  I am thinking about where I want to go in 2013, and I want to know, should I be budgeting time/money for this Toronto clinic.  The questions I asked were for me, just as much as anyone else.  I am intrigued, but would want more info.
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Re: 2013 Officials Conference planning
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2012, 11:34:57 pm »
Thank you Riff Ref.

Trust me, the size and activities that are being considered i would be happy to break evan. And besides, If there was profit to be had it would most likely be donated to worthy charity. Not in to it for profit.
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Re: 2013 Officials Conference planning
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2012, 04:15:10 am »
I will speak openly about your proposal. This is a WFTDA Rules Set forum, so I could really care less about any other rulesets. As for key notes with "people who matter", are you bringing in the WFTDA BOD and all the Committee Heads? Afterall, they are the ones who matter and what about ALL of the Skater Reps from every WFTDA League. Afterall, this sport is for the skaters, by the skaters. Debates about rulesets and so on. What are we debating? The rules themselves or what the intention of them are or how are they to be called? Talks and discussion panels from High Ranking members. High ranking how? President, Rules Comm, Games Pillar, Certified Refs? What organization are they high ranking in? USARS, WFTDA, OSDA, ARROW, etc??  Everything that you seem to be bringing up is covered in the WFTDA Officiating Clinics. Maybe I am being skeptical and I am sure I will get dinged in my rankings, but I am a big boy and those really don't mean that much to me if I am dinged because of this. In my opinion, this seems like a USARS guided conference. As Reaver stated, being transparent will get you further. I guess the skepticism is big since USARS has stated they intend to be the way to the Olympics with no regards to WFTDA. This is my personal take on this. I feel if you want to get support on this, post some of the items that people have told you that they want to know to be transparent.
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