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Re: NSO positions for the new ruleset
« Reply #90 on: February 03, 2013, 02:15:39 am »
This is will be only change to our NSO line up.

Keeping the OWBs?

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Re: NSO positions for the new ruleset
« Reply #91 on: February 07, 2013, 07:51:15 pm »
I know we (QCRG) aren't changing a thing besides ditching the OWB positions, until Rinxter is out and fully tested.  I dont see a need to fix what aint broke... 
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Re: NSO positions for the new ruleset
« Reply #92 on: February 17, 2013, 06:48:36 am »
This is will be only change to our NSO line up.

Keeping the OWBs?

We maybe dropping the OWBs for intraleague games but have them for inter league  bouts if we have visiting reffs


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Re: NSO positions for the new ruleset
« Reply #93 on: March 01, 2013, 12:55:43 am »
Don't assume what works for other leagues is the best configuration for yours; particularly during this transition period.

Under the new rules I've worked several bouts with a JT, one PT and an IWB on the inside. And that worked very well for us.

I also helped out a newer neighboring league who added a PW on the inside. That bout was challenging enough to need it, but I don't feel one would be necessary for a Division 1 or 2 bout.

There are other possibilities however: Can we run a bout without any NSOs on the infield?

Nothing has been decided yet.

« Last Edit: March 01, 2013, 12:57:42 am by Insane Troll Logic »
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Re: NSO positions for the new ruleset
« Reply #94 on: March 01, 2013, 03:16:40 pm »
There are other possibilities however: Can we run a bout without any NSOs on the infield?

Nothing has been decided yet.

Not if you wish to follow the current standard practices. The Jam timer is explicitly "stationed on the inside of the track".

Furthermore, the IWB is at the "center of the track", with the IWB operator "positioned where they can receive penalties from the penalty tracker to input to the inside whiteboard" (unless you have some sort of electronic IWB that can be updated from outside the center).




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Re: NSO positions for the new ruleset
« Reply #95 on: March 01, 2013, 08:53:08 pm »
Pre-Standard practice document I was in a bout that had:

1 Jam Timer
1 Inside Penalty Wrangler

Outside White Board stationed in between the two penalty boxes that were diagonal from the team benches, giving both teams a view of it.
The inside wrangler would signal penalties not picked up by the  Outside WB on a small dry erase board.

The next bout however, we moved the penalty benches in between the team benches, and the Penalty tracker/Board, to the inside.

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Re: NSO positions for the new ruleset
« Reply #96 on: March 05, 2013, 06:47:45 pm »
We just ran our official first home bout of the season.

One Jam Timer/Penalty Wrangler in the center
One Penalty Tracker in the center

No Whiteboard at all.
We used a "Hot Board" located in the penalty box. The PBM was tasked with writing the numbers of any skater with 5 or more box trips, to inform the skating refs and the benches.

It went exceptionally well. We had one discrepancy between the box records and the penalty tracker, which was quickly cleared up by the lineup trackers. With only two NSOs in the infield and no board, the sight lines were amazing. I will do this every game if I can.

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Re: NSO positions for the new ruleset
« Reply #97 on: March 22, 2013, 08:55:23 am »
There are other possibilities however: Can we run a bout without any NSOs on the infield?

Nothing has been decided yet.

Not if you wish to follow the current standard practices. The Jam timer is explicitly "stationed on the inside of the track".

Furthermore, the IWB is at the "center of the track", with the IWB operator "positioned where they can receive penalties from the penalty tracker to input to the inside whiteboard" (unless you have some sort of electronic IWB that can be updated from outside the center).

Standard Practices are only required for the Big 5 and the Tiny 2. They're not needed for sanctioning.

They're also currently being rewritten.

In addition to the three-people-on-the-inside that I mentioned, we've tried one PT, one PW, and the JT on the outside at a scrimmage. I wasn't fond of the results.

This weekend during our homebout, we'll be trying one PT and the JT on the inside, with hot boards on the outside updated by the penalty box personnel.

Try different configurations.
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Re: NSO positions for the new ruleset
« Reply #98 on: March 22, 2013, 02:54:13 pm »
This weekend during our homebout, we'll be trying one PT and the JT on the inside, with hot boards on the outside updated by the penalty box personnel.

We've done this in scrimmages and ran a sanctioned game with this set up.  We found that a penalty wrangler is necessary, as the PT can get overwhelmed if there are multiple penalties coming in from both the inside and the outside simultaneously.  For our sanctioned game we used the PT+PW+JT in the infield set up and it worked great.
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Re: NSO positions for the new ruleset
« Reply #99 on: March 27, 2013, 06:38:56 am »
We've done the same... PW, PT and JT on the inside.  No IWB at all.

We're still looking at other options, but this works for us on the inside.

 

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