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Offline Hailey_Bopp

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Bout Forms
« on: October 18, 2012, 08:23:28 am »
I may be totally blind but I cannot locate the link on WFTDA for NSO bout forms. Anyone have that handy?

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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 09:05:40 am »
Hi Hailey!
I believe the WFTDA Stats Book is what you are looking for. You can find it here uploaded to ZH over on the "ZH Files" section under Official WFTDA Documents.

The first section you fill out the roster information and it will then auto-populate the rest of the stats (Penalty Sheets, Scoring sheets, etc.)

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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 10:19:05 am »
Or if you want to get it straight from the source:

- http://wftda.com
- Click WFTDA in the pink nav bar.
- Click Stats below the nav bar.
- Click Bout Statistics Package (June 2010 October 2012 Release).
« Last Edit: October 18, 2012, 08:35:26 pm by Megapickle »

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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 12:40:46 pm »
The WFTDA has also released a fancy interim statsbook, with room for more jams, more passes per jam, a space on the box paperwork to track box trips, and some other bells and whistles.  I'm fairly sure it's not on their website, but they did release it on the Yahoo group "rollerderbystatsgeeks."  It's in the Files section there, under "interim WFTDA statsbook."  There's a regular version (14 skaters + 2 alts per team) and a tournament version (20 skaters per team).  This is being accepted by the WFTDA for sanctioning.  And it's awesome.
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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 08:31:47 pm »
drumroll...... *cymbal crash!*


http://wftda.com/stats

The October 2012 Release is official. Those who worked on this think you will like it, just a little better than the June2010 release.
You will bout as you practice.


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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 09:00:02 pm »
And let me incude some of the explicit reasons why:
  • supports 30 jams
  • up to ten (10) passes per jam
  • Enter the roster info on the IBRF/ITRF sheets, and skater info auto-populates to the other sheets.
  • Enter data on the Score sheet next, and the jam numbers and Jammer numbers auto-populate to the other sheets. Faster data entry overall, and provides a layer of error checking against Lineups.
  • Penalty Box sheets have place to record skater box trips, which makes reconciling against the IWB faster, which can mean fewer official timeouts needed.
  • Lineup sheets now support jams where there is no Pivot, and this is accurately reflected in the bout summary stats.
  • Better support overall for Star Passes, now that lots of the cool kids are doing them again.
  • Has a sheet to record information about Official Reviews taken. This can be useful for improving officiating crews performance, and targeting training.
  • Subtle changes to formatting in many places to make using the paper version better. Users may make a joy noise.
  • Other reasons too numerous to list. Check out the official release notes for more details.
You will bout as you practice.


Cheers,

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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 09:34:40 pm »
I'm surprised that they left the NOTT grids on the score sheet since the last Standard Practices document said those were no longer necessary.  Oh well, maybe someone somewhere really liked doing that...
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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2012, 09:45:09 pm »
They call NOTT points a "sacred cow" in the release notes.

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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2012, 10:38:10 pm »
SP doesn't just say they're not necessary, it says "The NOTT points should not be a captured." (sic)

I wonder if they were left because of the extra time & effort it will take to rejigger all the formulas. On first glance, simply deleting the NOTT columns doesn't ruin its functionality, but I strongly suspect I'm missing something.

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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2012, 11:01:49 pm »
I'm surprised that they left the NOTT grids on the score sheet since the last Standard Practices document said those were no longer necessary.  Oh well, maybe someone somewhere really liked doing that...

Shaun, pre-release versions have been public for a while now. The period for feedback on these is now in the past. "You can't go back, you can never go back."

And if that comment were asked during the feedback period, a likely reply might have been that the NOTT grids make for a nice visual break on the printed form, to help make certain a score gets recorded in the proper field.
You will bout as you practice.


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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2012, 11:53:29 pm »
And if that comment were asked during the feedback period, a likely reply might have been that the NOTT grids make for a nice visual break on the printed form, to help make certain a score gets recorded in the proper field.

With that in mind, I'll be sure to get the comment in during the feedback period for the next book, because I think it's far easier on the eye with the unused columns deleted:

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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2012, 12:23:59 am »
This file is also now available in the ZH files section.
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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2012, 08:17:34 pm »
And let me incude some of the explicit reasons why:
Has a sheet to record information about Official Reviews taken. This can be useful for improving


Where in the world can I find the proper way to fill out the Official Reviews Paperwork for the Statsbook?
What do they want in the "time" and "jam" fields... I imagine "jam" is the jam number. For "time" Idk if they want period time or the amount time the official review took.

AND ... in a sanctioned bout, if there are no official reviews, do I just fill out the top portion and leave the rest blank, or write "no official reviews taken" somewhere or?

Any and all help appreciated!

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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2012, 08:30:36 pm »
The color coding in the current statsbook was not supposed to indicate that the official review paperwork is required for sanctioning.

Time is time on the clock to identify when in the bout the official review occured.

The form is meant to help identify if specific rules are generating a lot of reviews and to provide some record of how the reviewed rules are being enforced.   Noting the length of the review might turn out to also be useful information if you want to record it.

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Re: Bout Forms
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2012, 09:39:00 pm »
Where in the world can I find the proper way to fill out the Official Reviews Paperwork for the Statsbook?
What do they want in the "time" and "jam" fields... I imagine "jam" is the jam number. For "time" Idk if they want period time or the amount time the official review took.

AND ... in a sanctioned bout, if there are no official reviews, do I just fill out the top portion and leave the rest blank, or write "no official reviews taken" somewhere or?

The time would be the time on the period clock when the OR was called. The jam should be the prior jam's number. Imagine the time and jam fields as being used by someone who wants to review the OR on video. They'd use that info to jump to the desired jam.

Length of the OR is not required, but may be potentially useful data. You could just fudge that in a corner of the big text or something.

And your idea for how to handle this in a sanctioned bout where there are no ORs (really?), that sounds like a reasonable solution, IMO.
You will bout as you practice.


Cheers,

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