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Offline ShoNuff

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Re: NSO Cert is active
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2012, 05:25:20 pm »
The sample test on the website is in no way meant to be a sample of the ref test for ref cert.

There are no sample questions provided to anyone for the NSO test.

Offline FNZebra

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Re: NSO Cert is active
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2012, 11:59:15 pm »
I am told by a source I trust that people on the WFTDA forums have access to sample questions (without answers), if that is true, it sure would be nice if that were available to anyone taking the test, and not just those who are taking the test who also have access to the forums  :/

As for the discussion of a possible sample test/ref sample test etc, there *is* a "WFTDA Written Rules Test- Sample written test for the WFTDA Standardized Flat Track Roller Derby Rules. Includes answer key" on the WFTDA officiating page that one could argue is a sample ref test.

Time to start trusting that source less, then. They are blowing smoke where you sit.

There are no sample questions available on the WFTDA forums, for either officiating certification exam. With or without an answer key.

As both Sho and I have passed the Referee Certification written exam, I will echo that the test on the officiating page is not intended to represent the contents of the certification exam. Nor does it.
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Offline DocSkinner

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Re: NSO Cert is active
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2012, 04:20:56 am »
I guess this is the test that people are talking about:

http://wftda.com/rules/wftda-rules-test.pdf

And you are saying that it isn't a "practice test" in any real sense of the word. I totally agree with that. On the other hand, if you couldn't pass this test, you'd have real trouble with the official test.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2012, 04:28:50 am by DocSkinner »

Offline bjmacke

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Re: NSO Cert is active
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2012, 05:15:45 am »
Yep, the public WFTDA Rules Test feels like what you'd take to get a driver's license. The Cert Test feels like something you'd take to be an EMT... if that helps clarify the difference.
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Re: NSO Cert is active
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2012, 10:30:02 pm »

Time to start trusting that source less, then. They are blowing smoke where you sit.


Good to know. And disappointing for my relationship with said person.

Thanks.

Also Congrats to Parking Lot of Toronto Roller Derby for being the first to receive certification via the new test!

Offline DocSkinner

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Re: NSO Cert is active
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2012, 06:00:18 am »
Ref cert is a piece of cake compared to NSO cert.

Offline Eject You Later

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Re: NSO Cert is active
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2012, 02:03:04 pm »
Ref cert is a piece of cake compared to NSO cert.

Eleventy billion officials that have not been granted certification may take issue with that.

Not to mention that I know of at least one official that passed the NSO cert test the first time, whereas the ref cert test... not so much.

It all depends on your focus, and your test taking preferences, etc.
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Offline Numb3r Crunch3r

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Re: NSO Cert is active
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2012, 12:35:57 am »
Ref cert is a piece of cake compared to NSO cert.

Eleventy billion officials that have not been granted certification may take issue with that.

Not to mention that I know of at least one official that passed the NSO cert test the first time, whereas the ref cert test... not so much.

It all depends on your focus, and your test taking preferences, etc.

Agreed - I passed ref-cert on the first try a couple of years ago, and missed NSO-cert by 1 mark recently due to a stupid mistake. I'd rate them of similar levels of difficulty, but requiring significantly different types of knowledge. Relative difficulty depends on your personal levels of that knowledge.

Offline DocSkinner

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Re: NSO Cert is active
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2012, 09:37:42 pm »
I understand the argument that they are of similar difficulty. I guess I shouldn't have compared the two.  My issue with the NSO cert test is the extreme amount of detailed responses required, which increases the likelihood of a mistake through simple oversight rather than lack of knowledge. Ref cert is difficult in a different way.

(And yes, like Numb3r Crunch3r, I passed ref cert on my first try while failing NSO cert due to a stupid mistake, so I am biased).
« Last Edit: December 13, 2012, 09:43:10 pm by DocSkinner »

Offline The Gorram Reaver

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Re: NSO Cert is active
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2012, 11:11:00 pm »
(And yes, like Numb3r Crunch3r, I passed ref cert on my first try while failing NSO cert due to a stupid mistake, so I am biased).

See, I too am in that category and don't consider the NSO test more difficult than the Ref test.  The NSO test felt so much easier.  The NSO test didn't leave me mentally & emotionally demoralized with a brain that just barely remained functional through the duration of the test, and the Ref tests always do.
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Offline DocSkinner

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Re: NSO Cert is active
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2012, 03:05:27 am »
I see that. I guess the difference is the definition of "easier."

I'd rather puzzle through a few difficult problems than worry about getting right every one of a thousand simple things.

 

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