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Offline Master Bates

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one stopwatch penalty timing
« on: November 20, 2012, 02:33:01 am »
the manual here, http://www.zebrahuddle.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=27 has some info about tracking penalties with one stopwatch. is that all there is to it, or does anyone have a better reference for timing penalties using one stopwatch and the form from the statsbook?
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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2012, 02:57:28 am »
Do it. You are the one-clocked bad*ss who can handle every skater who enters the box. All of them.

Also, it is easier to note the time of seating, add one minute, then subtract 10 seconds to arrive at " Color, number, stand!". Easy.
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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2012, 08:25:05 pm »
Do it. You are the one-clocked bad*ss who can handle every skater who enters the box. All of them.

This. You get some serious respect from NSOs when you grab a single stopwatch and a clipboard to track pentalty timing. Practice it every chance you get, even at scrimmages or even when watching games, and you will get the hang of it quickly.

The hardest part is when a skater asks for her time and you have to quickly calculate something like "3:13 (done) minus 2:36 (current)" but it gets easier with practice. And the sense of accomplishment when you realize that your stopwatch hasn't been reset for seven minutes due to non-stop penalties and you have handled that stuff like a pro... well it is awesome. You don't get that from an app.

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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2012, 10:37:31 pm »
Yeah, it's generally referred to as "clock math" and it's a good skill in case you want to try doing Jam Timing with a single stopwatch. :)
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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2012, 11:43:05 pm »
I would also say that single watch timing is a lot easier than multiple watch timing.

It may sound wery straight forward to just assign a watch to each person in the box but once you are processing lots of penalties fast, having everything on a single timeline makes it a lot easier to keep track of.

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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2012, 12:14:16 am »
I think it more depends on how your brain works. I can't do single stopwatch, personally.
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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2012, 12:21:42 am »
I'll chime in as well, and say a single stopwatch is much easier in the long run. While I will let any NSO use whatever system they are most comfortable with, I will also encourage the single stopwatch system.

There are a few places I see a large advantage with the single stopwatch system. It's easier to stop the time at the end of the jam, and start it with the next jam. The paperwork (another thing I encourage all penalty timers to use) is made with the single stopwatch system in mind.

The largest advantage is when you have a third block in the box. There is no way to properly time a third blocker if you are using a different stopwatch for each person.

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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2012, 12:27:30 am »
Don't say there is no way.
I've done it. Using three stopwatches, you can hold two in one hand in a way that you can press stop buttons with separate fingers. Sometimes, in a pinch, you can stack them and press the stop button in both with the same finger.
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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2012, 05:28:04 am »
You're right, I should not have said that there was no way, but my brain hurts just thinking about trying to juggle three stop watches while trying to record box trips on a clipboard.

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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2013, 04:52:22 pm »
I am starting to like single stopwatch for the blockers, and have been practicing it at scrimmages when able.

However, I still prefer seperate watches for the jammers. For  some reason we have a lot more instances of both jammers being sent to the box within seconds of each other with the new ruleset -- I don't trust someone to do high speed math while properly juggling 2 jammers - I especially don't trust myself....
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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 05:03:08 pm »
I always recommend using two watches to time the jammers. I really like having one watch displaying the time served by the first jammer, and the second watch displaying the time the second jammer has served. I think it prevents any math errors, and it's also a good way to see how close you can get the two watches to match as a means to work on your verbal cue cadence.

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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2013, 05:32:01 pm »
I really like having one watch displaying the time served by the first jammer...

Absolutely agreed.  Just make sure that you're listening for whistles and you either have a backup watch or have your finger/thumb poised on the stop/clear/start buttons, in case that first jammer is sent back to the box.  ;)
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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2013, 05:09:03 am »
I'm surprised no one has suggested this.  We use countdown timers that are velcroed to a white board.  We use three for the blockers, in the case we have a full box with one person standing.  They are easy to stop and start.  We have backups in case they run out of battery or break.  It is easy enough to figure out how much time a skater has left due to it counting down.

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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2013, 11:59:43 am »
I'm surprised no one has suggested this.  We use countdown timers that are velcroed to a white board.  We use three for the blockers, in the case we have a full box with one person standing.  They are easy to stop and start.  We have backups in case they run out of battery or break.  It is easy enough to figure out how much time a skater has left due to it counting down.

How do you add additional time for multi minute penalty trips?
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Re: one stopwatch penalty timing
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2013, 12:18:53 pm »
We also use those kitchen timers but I would never use them counting down.

Because:
  • If you pressed them too early you have no way of retracing how many seconds you pressed too early and no way of adding those extra seconds at the end.
  • Adding an extra minute requires an extra push of a button (additional error source), instead of just letting it run
  • If you have not disconnected the speaker, they beep at 0.
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