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Penalty Kill Slow Motion Video
« on: April 17, 2013, 04:59:56 pm »
This video seems to be making the rounds on Facebook. I'd like to hear the weigh in from the huddle on the question of Direction of Gameplay penalties here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aphEKtxGnc

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Re: Penalty Kill Slow Motion Video
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2013, 11:02:39 pm »
I've had a look at it, as you say, it's been doing the rounds. Watching the video, I would have called direction of gameplay on both blocks.

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Re: Penalty Kill Slow Motion Video
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2013, 12:09:20 am »
My first thought was, I'd want to have the white jam ref's sight line as looking from the front it's harder to gauge if she actually went past the perpendicular.

As I rewatch it I think a no call was correct.

The blocker appears to be stepping laterally or slightly CCW at first contact.  Then while she plants her left skate to swing into the block and her body is clearly moving CW, her right skate continues CCW until she initiates the block at which point it stops, but them immediately resumes CCW motion.

The second block has a similar course.

I'd say two no impact direction of gameplay.  Her upper body was clearly moving CW, but she kept CCW skate motion with only momentary stops as a result of the blocks.

With the perspective of the jam ref you could tell if the arcing skate motion of her right foot ever turned past perpendicular as she performed the block, but from the front it looks like no call and since the jam ref had a better line and agreed, I'd say no call.


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Re: Penalty Kill Slow Motion Video
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2013, 12:51:10 am »
Not knowing the exact position of the closest OPR on the first block, but watching it from the video, I would have called either Forearms or Elbows, so the other possible penalties wouldn't be an issue.  It looks to me that she does not use her shoulder to block the jammer out on the very first push out at all. It looks like a forearm or an elbow.  But that's how it goes, you can't always see everything all the time, and even that may be wrong because the video isn't at the best angle to make that call either.

As for Direction penalties on the rest, assuming the no call on the first, tough call.  It could be argued that because White starts moving to intercept Black as she's making her way CW that White is actually the initiator here, and them falling is essentially their own fault and, as a result, NI/NP.  It looks to me like when contact is made, Black is facing the right direction, not moving even just for the split second that contact is happening, so she's legal more or less.  But I can also see how it could have been called the other way as well.

Personally from me, Elbow or Forearm on the first push out on the Black Pivot.  The rest is moot at that point.
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Re: Penalty Kill Slow Motion Video
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2013, 03:10:08 am »
I agree about the elbow major on the original hit on the jammer. I definitely think the flick out gave it that little bit extra to put her out of bounds.

But regarding the blocks, I think both black blockers had their skates set, and where therefore established. Once they're established, I think the white blocker becomes the initiator, direction of gameplay on both. tough to call on the first, but I'd think the second is more cut and dry.

 

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