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Author Topic: NSO Training Manual - 2014 (updated)  (Read 4233 times)

Offline tweedle_damn

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NSO Training Manual - 2014 (updated)
« on: May 22, 2013, 06:11:29 am »
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Sharing a link to the NSO training manual I have been developing over the past few months, based on the new 2014 rule set.
Disclaimer #1 - I think it is 99.8% complete (any and all feedback is welcome)
Disclaimer #2 - It is just a guide to the various NSO positions and each league may have it's own variations of the policies and procedures listed (it is not sanctioned by WFTDA)
Disclaimer #3 - I have been around derby for 3 years, yet I do not claim to be any type of expert.  There are still a few things I am learning for myself (such as Action Tracker and Error Tracker)
Disclaimer #4 - while converting the Word doc. to a Google Drive doc., some of the formatting may have gotten a little screwy.  (although I will take responsibility for any spelling mistakes and grammatical errors)

I hope this is helpful:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8fm9-CDf06wTWNsRERXNlh5aWM/edit?usp=sharing
« Last Edit: June 27, 2014, 03:55:47 am by tweedle_damn »

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2013, 04:00:03 pm »
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Tweedle Damn,
Thank you! As a newbie NSO, this is exactly what I was looking for. Well written and concise. I'm recommending this document to our HNSO.

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2013, 01:32:35 pm »
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thank you. i am a new HNSO.

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2013, 07:11:55 pm »
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Thank you! Since the NSO wrangling got punted back to me, I've been looking for updated information.  :D

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2013, 11:12:00 am »
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Wow! This is amazing stuff! Seriously, you've honestly saved me having to write one myself :)

Top effort, and really nice explanations, as a trainer and facilitator, it's an awesome document.

Kudos

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2013, 07:43:28 am »
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Thanks this is awesome, I just took over as HNSO for my league. You have no idea how much these will help

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2013, 02:05:56 pm »
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Hey Tweedle!

Nice job.  There is one thing missing on the IWB section.  When the skater serves their time, you should put a dot under their penalty.  It's a great cross check with the PBM that all penalties are served.

I'm kinda a newbie also, but have been inside most of the time, so I have a pretty good understanding of this since I have trained all the inside crew with the new rule set.

Scotty

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2013, 09:01:48 pm »
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This is a great document and I love it, I'm just somewhat unclear about a note in the LT section that says "note: a pass occurs as the jammer leaves the forward most portion of the engagement zone. If a
skater is sent to the box on the initial pass of the jammer, indicate with a zero".

When a jam starts, the initial pass is "pass 1", meaning the jammer is on their first pass, once they have made it through the pack, and have exited the front engagement zone, they are now starting their 2nd pass (first scoring pass). I don't see where or why an indication with a "zero" should be used.

Your thoughts?

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2013, 10:43:51 pm »
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I was taught to put a zero if the jammer starts the jam in and still is in the penalty box, and 1 for the initial pass.

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2013, 10:48:26 pm »
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Yup, what Lucas said. Until the jammer is on the track for the first time in the jam, write down "0". That also means that if they don't field a jammer, you're on "0" for the duration of the whole jam.

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2013, 04:02:03 am »
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Is that accepted as a Standard Practice, and accepted by WFTDA on a sanctioned game level?
Or is this just what most do as "common practice"??

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2013, 04:45:27 am »
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Yes, it's the way WFTDA want it done. I haven't sat in on the NSO side of the WFTDA Clinics, but the many high-end folks I've worked with who have, say to do it this way.

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2013, 05:17:16 am »
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Thanks!

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2013, 12:44:31 pm »
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This is awesome, thanks!

Quick question: when a jammer A is serving two minutes of penalty time and the opposing jammer B sits for a penalty while jammer A still has more than a minute reamaining, is jammer A's penalty time reduced BY 60 seconds or the time remaining from the first minute (effective time remaining reduced TO 60 seconds)?

Text from guide:
"If during the first minute the second jammer(green) enters the
box, the second jammer (green) is immediately released after sitting, and the
remaining time on the first jammer’s (red) minute is dropped and they begin to
serve their second minute."

Text from 7.3.10:
"The remaining penalty time of the first Jammer is reduced by one minute."

Many thanks,
--Dread

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Re: NSO Training Manual - 2013
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2013, 12:57:04 pm »
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Jammer B should be released immediately and Jammer A's time should be reduced by 60 seconds.

So say Jammer A has served 59 seconds of her 2 minutes when Jammer B sits. Jammer B's minute and Jammer A's second minute pair, making the time owed by A 1 second and B 0 seconds. Jammer B should immediately be released back to play and Jammer B should be released 1 second later.
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