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Lineup tracking
« on: May 30, 2013, 06:27:30 pm »
I understand the paperwork involved with the Lineup Tracker position, but I had a question come up in a training session that I couldn't answer.

Why do we track the opposing jammer for pass recording, rather than our own? What is the idea behind using the other team's progress to assess our own team's penalty accumulation?

Again, I understand the how, and I train my NSOs to do it properly. I just can't wrap my head around the why.

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Re: Lineup tracking
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2013, 06:59:45 pm »
As a double check for scoring NOTT points, no?
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Re: Lineup tracking
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2013, 07:04:43 pm »
I have often wondered this as well, and I can't come up with a good reason.

As a double check for scoring NOTT points, no?

I assume this isn't the reason, because we track when a skater sits in the box, not when they are directed off the track.

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Re: Lineup tracking
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2013, 07:42:01 pm »
Though it would differentiate between (generic/other) NOTT and (in the) box points.

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Re: Lineup tracking
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2013, 08:27:42 pm »
Tracking opposing jammer passes, to my knowledge:

The original idea and intended functionality being that instead of writing an "X" whe a skater enters, and another "X" next to it when they exit the box, all the current requirement is, it was originally planned to write down the pass the opposing jammer was on when entering and exiting, thus being able to tell how many passes that blocker was a potential NOTT point for the other team.

So Uranus Escheating is correct and someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Again, it's not currently required.
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Re: Lineup tracking
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2013, 08:49:51 pm »
thus being able to tell how many passes that blocker was a potential NOTT point for the other team.

But the skater becomes a NOTT point at the moment she is directed off the track (correct me if I am wrong), while lineup tracking notes when a skater sits in the box.

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Re: Lineup tracking
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2013, 08:56:57 pm »
Again, it's not currently required.

Knowing how to do it is currently required if you want to be certified. And if the THNSO or THR wants it done for a tournament, you'll want to know how to do it even if you aren't interested in certification.

That being said, I guess I understand the use for tracking NOTT points, but as been mentioned the LTs track when the skater sits, not when they leave the track. A jammer could get multiple NOTT points while a skater is on her way to the box. If she finally reports to the box between jams, she wouldn't even show up in the LT paperwork until the next jam, so the NOTT point record would be lost.  If the box is full and she returns to the track, she might be counted as NOTT points again, (potentially over and over again as the queue is not literal) until she finally sits.

Seems like a the results wouldn't match the intent if that really is why.

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Re: Lineup tracking
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2013, 10:06:26 pm »
thus being able to tell how many passes that blocker was a potential NOTT point for the other team.

But the skater becomes a NOTT point at the moment she is directed off the track (correct me if I am wrong), while lineup tracking notes when a skater sits in the box.

Correct. I'm not saying it's perfect or not, just what it was. It would(v'e) give(n) a trackable "general idea". Or was intended to. Also, not everyone understood what to do (clearly), nor were formulas implemented giving no efficient and understandable meaning to the numbers in any summary, thus it's not required. Just "X" in and out.
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Re: Lineup tracking
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2013, 10:19:43 pm »
As I understand it from the WFTDA clinic, it is more for you to verify after the bout when filling out paperwork.  It gives an additional cross check for the NOTT points.

 

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