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"And that's the first half..."
« on: October 01, 2013, 08:55:07 pm »
So, not a mistake per se, but proably falls under "other problems".

In a recent (juniors) bout I we had a followng situation : close to the end of the half we start a jam and about 20-30 seconds after the start of the jam the rink's timer runs out and blares the buzzing "end of period" signal. The announcer immediately announces "And that's the first half of the game, folks..." at which point roughly half the juniors relax and start skating off the track, viewers start getting up, one of (less experienced) OPR's starts skating across the track into the middle nearly taking out the Lead Jammer who is STILL JAMMING because there were no four whistles yet...  ::)  It's a mess at that point.

Question - is taht something we need to cover with the rink as part of preparation for the bout - to turn the buzzer off (if that's an option)?  Or just cover it wth an announcer?...

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Re: "And that's the first half..."
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2013, 09:06:31 pm »
Both.

As head referee, you should be making sure that is handled any time you see a built in scoreboard in use.
Most of these scoreboards you have to do weird things to make them work for derby. Many you can turn off the buzzer. The ones that you can't, you can normally stop the period clock with 1 second remaining to prevent the buzzer from sounding. If you are going to do that, be sure to let the captains know.
Also, be aware that stopping the period clock may stop your jam clock.

Things like this are a large part of why you see projected scoreboards at tournaments.
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Re: "And that's the first half..."
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2013, 09:09:47 pm »
I have seen the several times. It seemed to work best when the announcer would (as the clock approaches zero) to remind the skaters and the audience that the jam is not over when the buzzer sounds and to continue to skate until the jam is called by a ref.

Only thing ref's can do is say "jam is on" that I Know of.

Like wood said, if you can stop it at 1 sec that is a good idea, I will recommend that for the future.
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Re: "And that's the first half..."
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2013, 09:28:15 pm »
Also make sure to cover it with BOTH Captains/Alternates.
This way they don't assume they still have 1 second on the clock to call a Time Out for an extra jam.

Let them know "Hey, the clock will stop at 1 second and be frozen so the buzzer doesn't interrupt the game."

FWIW.. If you DO happen to forget to stop the buzzer, and teh buzzer sounds and fans decide to rush the track causing the jam to end prematurely. This would fall under the allowance for an extra jam at the HR discretion.
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Re: "And that's the first half..."
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2013, 05:32:26 am »
For the first two seasons of my home league, this is the exact thing that happened when we used the clock of the arena.  Now that we use the scoreboard software and screen projectors, not an issue.

Best part is when the NSO team freaks out that the game is still going on when the buzzer sounds.  I had that issue (and the other issues that everyone else is talking about) solved by the second game I head reffed.

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Re: "And that's the first half..."
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2013, 07:05:23 pm »
Thanks all!

Clarification that may or may not be needed - this was actually an "away" game for our team - I was asked by the home league to HR, so I did not erally know the specifics of the venue ahead of time.

Well, one more thing to keep track of / add to the HR checklist  :)

 

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