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Offline TheMountainThatSkates

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Big dude skate problems
« on: June 29, 2014, 04:48:32 pm »
I just recently started skating and am a pretty big dude. The only skate I found in a 15 was the Rock GT 50. I bought them and like them ok, but everything seems to be designed for a lighter skater. I know that these won't last forever, esprcially with 270 pounds on them, so my question is this: what is likely to fail or break? What warning signs should I look for? What can I do to prolong the functioning life of these  skates? What upgrades can be made to make them more appropriate for a bigger dude?

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Re: Big dude skate problems
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2014, 05:35:39 pm »
Ah yes, the GT50, those were my first skates too.   For me, the first thing that broke were the eyelets for the laces.  The heels on skates were also starting to crack and separate from the sole.  Honestly, the GT50 just isn't made for serious skating.  I only used mine for 4 months before I upgraded.


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Re: Big dude skate problems
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2014, 06:48:21 pm »
The gt50 is a vinyl boot with plastic sole mounted to a nylon plate. Not heavy duty by any view, as you noted.

The boot will wear but will not be the dangerous part. Every time you skate check the kingpins. 270lbs is much more than that plate can handle and can crack the housing of the kingpin, causing your entire truck to come off suddenly, possibly resulting in serious injury. If money is an issue, get a Sure Grip DA-invader or Suregrip Competitor. They are die cast aluminum and are strong enough to last a lifetime of abuse, they are not light though. If you want light and strong go up to Avengers, Proline, any of the upgrade plates which fit your skating type. (Action angle is most of the selection). The lightest on the market being the Arius, but at $350 it is not cheap and apparently heavy skaters don't like them as they will get wheel bite on even the hardest set of cushions.

Boots... in a 15... that I have no idea. maybe here? sorry best I can do for that bit.http://www.create-a-skate.com/qulasisk1314.html
I play devils advocate a lot, it is always because I desire a complete understanding of the rule/scenario. I do make changes to my reffing often as a direct result of discussions resulting in a consensus. Particularly if it is contrary to my previous understanding.

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Re: Big dude skate problems
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2014, 07:31:34 pm »
I saw that site for custom made ones when I was looking, but it is too rich for my blood at this point. I don't want to have to shell out that kind of money until I have enough time on the track to see if I do or do not actually like it.

Thanks for the warning about the kingpin and the plate suggestions. Any idea of where to find big ones?  A quick search only found up to size 14.

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Re: Big dude skate problems
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2014, 09:13:00 pm »
I also recommend examining the toe stop attachment areas of the plates when examining the king pin housing.  If you do a lot of toe stop work (running on them, turn stops, etc.) this is also an area of concern.  It is the place I have had fail consistently on synthetic plates - small wonder, given the amount of OPRing that occurs in my daily life.
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Re: Big dude skate problems
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2014, 09:40:55 pm »
Thanks for the warning about the kingpin and the plate suggestions. Any idea of where to find big ones?  A quick search only found up to size 14.
Yes, you will almost defiantly need to undersize the plate. This is normal, and is called short mounting or short forward: if the plate is pushed up toward the front than the back.

The real thing to look at is actually distance between the axles. This should roughly match up to the center of your heel to just forward of the ball of your foot for a "standard mount." Ignore all recommendations by the manufacture for sizing, they size them that way to make an overly stable skate for uber beginners and rental skates, their recommendations will not lead to happy skating in the long run.

Measure your foot ball to heel and get a plate which is just a bit longer than that axle to axle.
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