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Foul out hand signals
« on: April 22, 2016, 12:11:05 pm »
The new hand signals (https://static.wftda.com/officiating/WFTDA-Officiating-Hand-Signals.pdf) describes a hand signal for "6.4.1 FOUL OUT AND 6.4.2 EXPULSION" (the "thumb over the shoulder"). I'm currently using this HS only for expulsions, not foul outs (and I believe it is the case for everyone in mainland Europe). Should I (we) start using it when signaling foul outs ?

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Re: Foul out hand signals
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2016, 02:48:49 pm »
The new hand signals (https://static.wftda.com/officiating/WFTDA-Officiating-Hand-Signals.pdf) describes a hand signal for "6.4.1 FOUL OUT AND 6.4.2 EXPULSION" (the "thumb over the shoulder"). I'm currently using this HS only for expulsions, not foul outs (and I believe it is the case for everyone in mainland Europe). Should I (we) start using it when signaling foul outs ?

I was under the impression that has been in the document for a few years, I would suggest using it. On a personal opinon note, I think it is most beneficial to use if you are the HR PBM and are doing a foulout mid jam. That signal is fairly universal for "you're done". The benches, skaters, and crowd would know what your ruling is.
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Re: Foul out hand signals
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2016, 02:58:54 pm »
I was under the impression that has been in the document for a few years, I would suggest using it. On a personal opinon note, I think it is most beneficial to use if you as the HR are doing a foulout mid jam. That signal is fairly universal for "you're done". The benches, skaters, and crowd would know what your ruling is.

Ah, but it is now ALSO in the standard practice that the HR doesn't leave the track for foulouts mid jam.  Those are now handled entirely by the box manager.
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Re: Foul out hand signals
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2016, 05:36:21 pm »
I was under the impression that has been in the document for a few years, I would suggest using it. On a personal opinon note, I think it is most beneficial to use if you as the HR are doing a foulout mid jam. That signal is fairly universal for "you're done". The benches, skaters, and crowd would know what your ruling is.

Ah, but it is now ALSO in the standard practice that the HR doesn't leave the track for foulouts mid jam.  Those are now handled entirely by the box manager.

Neat. I had only read the new verbal & signal documents when I posted that. So yeah, Mid-Jam expulsion is the only "leave the pack" thing left now. Even though not a thing anymore, I did find that was when it was most useful. I edited my post above.
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