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Author Topic: Clockwise/Stopped Assist?  (Read 2776 times)

Offline General Hellativity

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Clockwise/Stopped Assist?
« on: June 11, 2016, 02:56:13 pm »
Hi everyone!

Some time ago, this video circulated around facebook illustrating a successful Pegassist.

When I watch the video, here is what I see:
  • Black Blocker skates slowly clockwise and reaches out her arms to her jammer.
  • Black Jammer skates slowly in derby direction and reaches out her arms to Black Blocker.
  • They grab arms, Black Jammer jumps, and Black Blocker exerts a strong force propelling the Black Jammer up and forward in derby direction. At this moment, Black Blocker appears to be stopped, but can't possibly be traveling in derby direction, since she is slowing from a clockwise approach.
  • The assist causes Black Jammer to gain position on at least one opponent (Yellow 23) in the vicinity.

With all the usual caveats that the video and position of the camera is not ideal, it looks to me like a Stopped Assist or Clockwise Assist penalty should be assessed. The hive mind's thoughts? And if so, who gets it, Jammer or Blocker?

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Re: Clockwise/Stopped Assist?
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2016, 07:35:35 pm »
Looks like a stopped assist from that angle. I don't know who to apply it to but if I had to make a call on the floor I would likley give it to the blocker as this assist could be seen as initiated from BOTH players but is still one action. Feel the skating back and reaching out sets up the blocker as the most responsible skater in this assist.

Though the usual caveats apply, in my mind right now the clearest explanation for the no call. Is the JR was probably watching the legality of the Jammer's take off and landing. They could likely not see the legality of the initiating blockers movement, or lack of it.
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Re: Clockwise/Stopped Assist?
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2016, 05:22:52 am »
I probably would have missed the stop block due to checking for multis and cuts, but an HR might spot it. Also is that a late hit by yellow jammer at the end there?
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Re: Clockwise/Stopped Assist?
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2016, 09:55:42 pm »
*tweet*,black 2,3,stopped assist.

With that said, I agree with llama about why it was missed.  The jr was (appropriately) watching the jammer, not her blocker's feet.  The IPRs had no idea there was an assist coming that they needed to watch for legality.

@mavericky: I don't see a late hit.

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Re: Clockwise/Stopped Assist?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2016, 09:54:23 am »
@mavericky: I don't see a late hit.

I agree. Neglected to account for black blocker initiating.
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