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Offline Assault Disney

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New Rules Clarifications..
« on: October 18, 2017, 03:38:11 pm »
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Hi All, I'm considering a return to NSO/Ref officiating after years away and have some questions about the new rules as they are not clear and don't include everything.

1) Forearm Block
In the process of blocking a jammer, a blocker, skating in a ccw direction, places arms outstretched maintaining contact with the jammer. This action prevents the jammer from moving in that direction.
As I understood it, this would be a forearm penalty as the blocker is using an illegal blocking zone to prevent Jammer movement?

2) Clockwise Block
While in a wall, a blocker moves to a position in front of the Jammer and begins to skate backwards pushing the Jammer back.
Would this not be a clockwise block?

And in general, how much input can a Head NSO give for Official Reviews?
I ask as I am generally well versed in the rules and their identification on track, I am usually in the middle to see what is happening and the rules state the Head Ref would take the Officials information into account when making a decision (not just skaters).  Genuinely curious how it is done elsewhere...
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Re: New Rules Clarifications..
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2017, 03:51:39 pm »
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Both of these calls officials are looking for 2 things:

1) Did they do the illegal thing? Sounds like they did.

2) Did they continue doing it for some small amount of time? This is the part you have to judge.

With these "impeding progress" penalties there is a time element that you have to judge as an official. Just doing it it alone is not penalty worthy. Doing it, and holding that trajectory, or holding that forearm for a beat is what officials try to look for. I hope this helps.

And in general, how much input can a Head NSO give for Official Reviews? NSOs can be included to give input for Official Reviews, most will likely wait to be asked to give input by the HR, but that is not a standard. If you feel like you have something meaningful to the review, let the HR know so they can weigh that information with that given by other officials.
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Re: New Rules Clarifications..
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2017, 05:48:16 pm »
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2) Clockwise Block
While in a wall, a blocker moves to a position in front of the Jammer and begins to skate backwards pushing the Jammer back.
Would this not be a clockwise block?

Important to clarify here - by "backwards" you mean "clockwise", yes?  Not skating backwards in derby direction.

In general, here's the metric for clockwise as I explain it.  Clockwise or stopped blocking is an *immediate* penalty if it has an immediate impact - if the recipient goes down, out of bounds, loses relative position, or has a significant change in speed or trajectory.

Penalties can also be issued for *sustained* clockwise or stopped blocks even if there is no tangible impact other than a sustained impediment to motion.  Judging the length of time to hit "sustained" is an area we all constantly work on.

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And in general, how much input can a Head NSO give for Official Reviews?
I ask as I am generally well versed in the rules and their identification on track, I am usually in the middle to see what is happening and the rules state the Head Ref would take the Officials information into account when making a decision (not just skaters). 

When I HNSO, I make a point of listening in on the official review as presented by the team.  If it seems information will be needed from another NSO, I'll go and collect it and then join the huddle.  If not, I just stay with the huddle.  Two reasons - 1. the referees might decide they need NSO information and 2. the result of the OR is something I'll need to know about, even if the result is just "not retained."
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Re: New Rules Clarifications..
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2017, 07:04:37 am »
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Thanks guys, that is very helpful...

I usually listen in to ORs to give information if I have any and to learn the outcome as it usually requires NSO actions. I mainly asked as I get shutdown quite a lot from some HRs here, they don't see NSOs as much more than an administrator. Was curious what happens elsewhere... Thanks for the support.
 
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