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Re: Back Blocking
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2010, 05:13:56 pm »
Roller derby is a contact sport.

If they should fall, it is a chance to practice "falling small" or else incur the wrath of the teammates.

Concur.

Such is derby. Hits and falls happen.

Nothing illegal, which is the outline by which we gauge what is to be considered safe, and the only power we have handed us to ensure it is by enforcing the rules.

Them practicing to better find a way to legally edge around an opponent is gravy. They play the sport. We watch for legallity. Perhaps the skater isn't precise or controlled and causes a low block. That's where we can call something. "That wasn't safe" so to speak.
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Re: Back Blocking
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2010, 06:59:13 pm »
A referee in our league and I are in conflict whether a certain back block should have been called as a minor or not called at all. The jammer back blocked an opposing blocker with her left forearm. This forced the blocker to react by adjusting her body position and stand up straighter to avoid falling or losing position. The other referee argued that since it did not adjust her skates that there was no foul committed by the jammer. I argued that the effect of losing their body position or derby stance weakened their defensive position and allowed the jammer to pass. I would like to know whether an effect just to the upper body (when it affects the pass or jam) can be enough to call a minor foul. As another side note, the receiving blocker was not faking the effects and was a response to having the jammer push her arm against her back.

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Re: Back Blocking
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2010, 07:05:55 pm »
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This forced the blocker to react by adjusting her body position and stand up straighter to avoid falling or losing position.

Minor per: [rule]6.1.3 Any contact to the back of an opponent that forces the receiving opposing skater off[/rule]

The contact clearly set her off balance by your description of the event.
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Re: Back Blocking
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2010, 09:06:28 pm »
First, welcome to the huddle!  :)

Second, I agree with Pat

Third, this could potentially be called a major if the receiver was unable to defend her position.   Note, however, that the key verb in the blocking to back section is *forces*. 

It may be useful for you to read over what Johnny Zebra explained in the mutual exclusivity thread
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Okay, here's how I view it:

Definition of Relative position: The position a skater holds in relation to other skaters on the track. (4.0 Glossary) - note, "skater" means jammer too, not just other blockers.

Also: http://rules.wftda.com/2009/03/24/relative-position/
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Question:

What is the definition of “Relative Position”?

Answer:

Relative Position: The position a skater holds in relation to other skaters on the track.
Loss of Relative Position: When a skater’s position in relation to other skaters on the track is lost for a sustained period of time due to the actions of an opponent, such as a legal block or an illegal block.  Being forced out of bounds is always to be considered a loss of relative position.


So:

* Blocker illegally blocks opponent so jammer can pass her = major

* Jammer illegally blocks opponent and then passes her:
   
Opponent has not recovered from the illegal action at the time of the passing, then relative position has been lost, so = major, no point

Opponent recovers, and is able defend her position while being passed = minor, point.



* Jammer illegally blocks opponent while passing her:

Block prevents or seriously compromises opponent from defending her position = major, no point

Block occurs during pass, but it is unclear whether it prevented/seriously compromised opponent from defending her position= minor, no point (working from the 9.3.4. assumption that if you are not 100% sure it is a major, call it as a minor, and, for points, that to score a point you must pass her without committing a penalty (8.3.1).


* Jammer passes an opponent and then illegally blocks her (e.g. pushes back with an extended forearm) = minor, point (pass already occurred when minor happened).
bold emphasis mine

I realize that particular response and thread might be more information than you wanted.  However, it's all good stuff.  It makes my head hurt it's so good.  ;D
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