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Offline Bishop

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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2010, 03:25:50 pm »
Here is my ECE 2009 inspired whiteboard.


The sheets with the player's numbers and names are printed on 11" x 17" paper.  I have MS Excel set up so that all I have to do is enter the roster information once and it auto-populates everything onto all the ECE-inspired tracking worksheets.  For this particular bout, I didn't have all the roster information ahead of time so had to use a Sharpie to write in the missing names and numbers.
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2010, 03:48:50 pm »
I should point out, though probably not necessary, how much easier this makes things for NSOs and bench coaches, visibilty-wise.  Thanks for bringing it with you that bout, Bishop!
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Inside Whiteboards
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2010, 07:45:11 pm »
The "NSO Manual" thread turned into a discussion about Inside Whiteboards, so I thought I'd break it out into its own thread. We just described ours on rollerderbystatsgeeks, so here it is for those not on that list:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/windycityrollers/3428456710/

The 3' x 4' dry erase board is magnetic, which allows us to preprint nameplates and swap them in and out quickly. The top row holds team name and color, reviews, and timeouts. Subsequent rows hold skater number, skater name, minors, and box trips. We're generally a fan of the single board (as opposed to the hinged double-pane boards used elsewhere) as it doesn't take up as much infield room and is easier to read from both benches.

A couple things we do that have worked well for us:

- Use hashmarks. Some use circles, crosses, or numerals: we've found nothing is as fast and visible as hashmarks.

- When someone picks up her fourth minor, don't wipe the board immediately: inform the Head Ref and then swipe a finger horizontally through the minor hashmarks so you have a physical record. Once you see the skater in question sit, clear the minor box to confirm.

- When someone is called out for a box trip, mark it on the board. Once you see the skater in question sit, swipe a finger horizontally through the box trip hashmark to confirm.

- Ask your Head Ref to start at or near the Inside Whiteboard so you can inform him or her of any blockers on the track with three minors or four box trips.

- For the nameplates, we cut a bunch of 1/4 foamcore and attached business card magnets to the back. Then we printed numbers and names and affixed them to the nameplates with low-tack adhesive so they'd be reuseable:

http://www.dickblick.com/products/krylon-easy-tack-repositionable-spray-adhesive/

- Make sure the lines on your Inside Whiteboard are a different color than the marker you use for your hashmarks. The blue stripes you see in the picture are from a roll of 3/4" painter's tape I cut by hand down to 1/4" (I kid you not), but we've finally found a decent replacement:

https://www.epaintstore.com/1-4-x-60-yd_painters-mate-green-masking-tape.html

- Buy a good stand that allows you to display the board as close as possible to the floor. I know, I know, they're stupid expensive, but it's worth it.
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2010, 08:19:16 pm »
Cool - thanks for sharing that Scorey.  I use diagonal hash marks to indicate the minors.  For the "penalty minutes" section, we use copy of what's on the penalty tracking sheets.  The idea was to make it easy on the NSOs by having the sheets match the boards.  In fact, since we currently use two penalty trackers, we just give them dry erase markers [black only!] and they update the boards - no inside whiteboard personnel needed.

I may try to use a penalty wrangler this year in order to get those fourth minors reported ASAP.  However, the current system has worked well for our level of play.  Additionally, the whole NSO thing is out my hands now which, for the moment, frees me up to micromanage other things - like bout production.  ;D  
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2010, 08:43:58 pm »
As a relatively new league over here in the UK we are in the process of putting together NSO role descriptions so these are a real help - many thanks
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Re: Inside Whiteboards
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2010, 08:48:05 pm »
Thanks Scorey, some really good ideas there.

Roc City uses something similar.  This is our board near the end of the season.


That's just a purchased whiteboard with some permanent marker marks on it.

Two differences I want to point out is that we use a separate box for each mark.  This makes the number of marks easier to read at a distance.

We also only use player number on the board because we've found that it's more visible to the benches from the inside and that's enough to distinguish between players.

The frame is falling apart and we are about to build a replacement.  I'm definitely going to some of the ideas from this back to our group.  I like the tape for lines idea, I also really like keeping TOs and Official Reviews up on the team name line.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2010, 08:50:33 pm by reflmao »
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2010, 07:36:01 pm »
Hey all!  Thank you so much for the feedback on my manuals!  I'm glad they're being useful.  :)

Per your comments, I've revised the Jam Timer manual and the Penalty Box manual.

Jam Timer:  Fixed an error in when to blow the jammer start whistle.
Penalty Box:  Changed stand/release information to reflect WFTDA best practices, added info in the jammer penalty timing rules regarding a "Jammer 1 returns to the box while Jammer 2 is still serving her penalty" situation

Thanks again!!! :)
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2010, 10:44:01 pm »
Ooooohhhh!  All the white board pictures are pretty!

In Madison one thing we've talked about is getting boards that are magnetic, and then printing numbers on (I think) sticker paper.  Apply printed numbers to magnet sheets cut to the proper size - TA-DA!  Printed, easily legible numbers, that can be reused & rearranged as needed.  The kind of thing that makes a paperwork lovers heart tump in anticipation.  And when you add in the excitement of being an office supplies addict...  Well, let's just say it's the kind of project that makes Reavers very happy.
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2010, 10:49:12 pm »
What's with Mad Rollin' Dolls referees and office supplies?  :D

I guess I can't poke too much fun seeing as how I was the one with a WFTDA rules binder and fancy sheet protectors.  ;D

Give Maxx my regards.
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2010, 08:09:06 pm »
One more revision to the manuals, this time the Lineup Tracker manual. 

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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2010, 09:05:08 pm »
1.) Thanks for these!

2.)

The double whistle doesn't necessarily coincide with the last blocker crossing the line. It happens whenever the pack is entirely across the line. Some blockers may still be behind the line.
Either way,  the skates are the determining factor here, not the hips.

I think the following:

a.) If the "last skater" is part of the pack, then it is that skater's skates (across the line, or not) which determine the time to start the jammers, but if there is a dawdling skater who has not crossed the line, then it is the measurement between the last pack skater and the dawdling skater's hips (is she "in the pack" or not) which determine the time to start the jammers.

b.) In the manual, it says, "If the last blocker dawdles and the pack passes the 20' limit, blow."

I think that should only be 10 feet, because it is not "in play" status that matters for a dawdling skater, it is "in the pack" status.




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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2010, 02:47:12 pm »
Correct. It does say "pack", so 10 feet, not 20, is the amount of separation before the straggler is no longer a pack member and the whistle can be blown.

However, it also says:
[rule]4.4.2 Once the rear of the pack has reached the Pivot line [/rule]

Reached, not crossed.
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2010, 05:42:43 pm »
Ack!  I have the dumb.  Will fix immediately.

EDIT:  Fixed.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2010, 05:48:34 pm by Gravity Kills »
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2010, 06:34:13 pm »
OK, seems like every time I poke the Jam Timer manual, I goof something up.  Hopefully this is the last revision for a while. 
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2011, 02:24:38 pm »
Wow! Thanks for the hard work! I grabbed these as well! This is an amazing contribution to the sport.

 

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