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Offline Gravity Kills

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NSO manuals
« on: March 03, 2010, 04:34:17 am »
So, during our winter break, I got a bit ambitious and wrote up a set of manuals for the different NSO positions.  I'm uploading them to the Files section, "Unofficial Documents."  They aren't WFTDA approved or anything, they're just how we've been doing the job in Roc City.  Grand Poobah was kind enough to read them over and make sure I had my facts straight, and I've started using them to train our new refs and NSOs.  They seem to work well as a reference.

So, if you want a very boring but educational read, check 'em out!

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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2010, 09:18:57 am »
My HR (Harry Spot'er) and I are currently working on a similar document for our league. We've got a pretty detailed one for now, but every now and then we find a few things that need to be tweaked. I like the format of yours, though, and it's more laid back (ours reads a bit more like the Rules) which I think works when you're trying to explain something like an NSO role. I especially like the little images of each stat sheet. We ended up pasting the whole sheet in, and in hindsight the certainly seems overkill.

Would you mind terribly if we borrowed some of your ideas?
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2010, 04:17:07 pm »
Not a problem!  And thank you! :)
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2010, 10:10:44 pm »
Thanks for posting these! This was a project that I was going to do for our officials, but it got pushed aside.
I'm going to edit these to customize it for our practices.

I did notice one error in the jam timer document, though.

[rule]When the last blocker's hips pass the starting line, two short blasts of the whistle starts the
jammers in motion[/rule]

The double whistle doesn't necessarily coincide with the last blocker crossing the line. It happens whenever the pack is entirely across the line. Some blockers may still be behind the line.
Either way,  the skates are the determining factor here, not the hips.
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2010, 05:15:10 am »
Ack! Nertz!  I'll fix that and repost it.  Thank you! 
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2010, 04:08:52 pm »
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2010, 05:35:27 pm »
i joined this group looking for this exact thing!!! Thank you sooo much for putting the hard work into this :)

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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2010, 11:22:15 pm »
Thanks so much for these!  I've only read a couple, but they are a big help!  Very straightforward and easy to understand.  Thanks for the permission to share these with the head NSO and other officials for Little City Roller Girls, they're going to help a lot!  You have put together some fine manuals here, Gravity Kills. Thanks again.

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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2010, 03:45:47 am »
Thank you! I used these to supplement training by our head NSO. Excellent job! The scorekeeping manual was a great resource and I'll be referring to it often.

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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2010, 01:13:22 pm »
thanks that's awesome. I translated most of it and added it to my manual. and it made me change our three-board to an actual penalty board... I am eager to see how that works this weekend.
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2010, 01:14:57 pm »
thanks that's awesome. I translated most of it and added it to my manual. and it made me change our three-board to an actual penalty board... I am eager to see how that works this weekend.

I wish everyone would make that change
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2010, 04:25:49 pm »
Speaking of NSOs, we're finally releasing the 4.2 edition of the WFTDA StatsBook. Waiting for Ms. D'fiant to give it her blessing and a few key people to have a look at it. It should be going up on the WFTDA site soon, and will be available on rollerderbystatsgeeks and the WFTDA Stats group.

I'll make sure to upload it here once some more of that has happened. I'd hate to post it now and have someone point out an "awshit" so that version 4.2a is needed.

This SHOULD be the last release till this Summer.

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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2010, 06:46:39 pm »
thanks that's awesome. I translated most of it and added it to my manual. and it made me change our three-board to an actual penalty board... I am eager to see how that works this weekend.

I wish everyone would make that change

Dang it, I posted a reply to this a couple hours ago but it didn't show up.  My workplace internet is acting screwy today.  Anyway.... not looking to hijack this thread.

We are also looking to change to a full board this year and when discussing this with one of our certified NSO's she made a very interesting comment.  She said to expect there to be an increase in the number of official time outs to fix penalty problems due to the lag time in getting a full whiteboard updated compared to a hotboard.  She has worked many tournaments, reigonals and I believe Nationals too and said she sees this happen even at the highest levels of play.  Additionally it makes the penalty tracker/ board operators job much more difficult so it will require us to develop a good team of "specialized" NSO's (like the penalty box operator) to keep things running somewhat smoothly.

I think she does make a good point here because it is not a drawback that is readily seen or thought about when looking to switch from hotboard to full boards.  Still, it seems that full boards are becoming the standard so I am sure we will continue to move in that direction.

I am curious if you noticed this happen at your bout Riff- any thoughts?
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2010, 07:01:28 pm »
And to make your whiteboard look all professional and such, consider buying a roll or two of 1/8 or 1/4 inch whiteboard tape to section everything off.  Pinstriping tape looks suspiciously similar to whiteboard tape, so that's an option as well.  

If I have the time, I'll try to post a picture of the whiteboard I made up last year.  
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Re: NSO manuals
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2010, 03:04:27 pm »
we are lucky to have a sponsor who makes billboards, displays, banners etc. and I get a Dibond plate with the chart printed on it.

@ttjustice  I will keep you posted. this time I will have a crowded infield. since I had (for my very first time) more refs than positions I will use one of them as an additional penalty wrangler, plus 2xPTs and Penalty Board. I will see if it's more people - more problems or if an extra set of eyes and ears is helpful...
« Last Edit: March 23, 2010, 03:10:37 pm by Riff Reff »
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