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« on: March 09, 2010, 07:37:13 am »
Imagine this....(Penalty box consists of a green jammer,purple blocker green blocker)

3 purple blockers in the back have trapped green blocker. Eleven feet in front of them is a green  pivot and a another green blocker..........

Green blocker gets knocked out of bounds (the one in the trap in the back)

she regains herself after 5 seconds and sprints forward to rejoin the opposing blockers.....

The purple jammer was on a scoring pass and called off the jam once she passed her first purple blocker, (she did pass the green fallen blocker) ....

How many points does the purple jammer get?


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Re: your trapped....
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2010, 07:58:40 am »
Purple gets 3 points (one for the Green Blocker on the track, one each for the Jammer and Blocker in the box). The other Green Blocker and Pivot are inside the EZ, so no points. Though a bit more info is needed to determine if a No Pack situation is in effect.

I'd also be evaluating the Green Blocker for a SOOB Minor, depending on how far she "sprinted" before re-entering the track.
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Re: your trapped....
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 04:39:58 pm »
Somewhat as written.

The moment the 'trapped' green blocker was on the ground, it became a 'no pack' situation as long as the front two green skaters remained 11 feet ahead of the purple skaters.

Since there is no pack, there is no engagement zone.

The moment she passed the 'downed' green blocker she gets 3 points. (2 green players in the penalty box, + the downed player).

Since there is No Pack and No Engagement zone, I would say she ALSO gets the 2 points ahead once the jam is called off.

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Re: your trapped....
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 05:15:51 pm »
Scoring at Jam End During No Pack
August 17, 2008
Question:

If at the end of a jam there is no pack, does a Jammer earn points for opposing out-of-play skaters out in front of her?

Answer:

If there is not a legal pack at the end of a jam, the Jammer does not score on opposing Blockers ahead of the Engagement Zone. A pack is required for 8.5.7 to be in effect.
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Re: your trapped....
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 02:26:56 am »
Scoring at Jam End During No Pack
August 17, 2008
Question:

If at the end of a jam there is no pack, does a Jammer earn points for opposing out-of-play skaters out in front of her?

Answer:

If there is not a legal pack at the end of a jam, the Jammer does not score on opposing Blockers ahead of the Engagement Zone. A pack is required for 8.5.7 to be in effect.


That's what I was thinking originally, since the term "ahead of the EZ" is expressly used, rather than a general OOP. Though, I'll be honest and say I wasn't sure if that clarification was carried over with 4.0 after Split Packs were removed. But I guess since the clarification uses the term "no pack" I guess that answers my question.
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Re: your trapped....
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 05:01:35 am »
Crap..

I was close.. Going to have to refresh myself up on the FAQ's page, thats two important ones I've blown this week.

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Re: your trapped....
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 06:35:14 am »
And yet anther compelling argument for all clarifications than remain applicable to be incorporated into each new rules set.  I've already asked my league reps to pass on my willingness to take on this kind of project (and my belief that it is necessary), but in case there's anyone spending time on ZH that's on the WFTDA Rules Committee, I am offering my grammar & editorial skills and total rules nerdiness to an effort of this kind.
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Re: your trapped....
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 04:29:38 am »
I can attest to Reavers grammar and editorial prowess after watching a grammar smack down on the yahoo group.

I however, suck at grammar, I just like to use a large vocabulary.

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